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    <title>topic Re: ArchiCAD 11 in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/79081#M40890</link>
    <description>I'm not saying a continuing focus on 2D environment is preferred. I'm just saying taking an upgrade to incorporate a bunch of 2D ideas to entice traditional CAD users while the installed base continues to digest the major revisions in 10 makes sense. From Graphisoft's point of view anyway. I look forward to 12 maturing the improvements in 10 and maybe returning to some of the elegance that Bruce is bemoaning the loss of. &lt;BR /&gt;
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With the increased update cycle I can see them starting to stagger the development. One year 3D modeling improvements, the next year interface improvements. That way they actually gain more time to develop the 3D improvements which at this point in the maturity of the program has to be a real bear to work out. When 10 came out it was apparent to me that this was the conclusion of a set of changes that we saw the first glimmers of in AC7. So it took 5+ years to achieve. The next phase has to be harder. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Which reminds me Bruce. If you thought the IntelMac transition was rough you obviously don't remember the rocky beginnings of the release of 8. That was unusable on any machine. Yes you were double whammied by the complexity of 10 and the transitional challenges, but ArchiCAD was the first of my major programs to make the switch and still led programs like Vectorworks by a couple of months. The change for these kinds of programs was clearly not trivial. But, I have been using an IntelMac since early December and aside from some of the issues mentioned in the other IntelMac specific threads have found it to be a good experience. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Your other complaints mirror the most common complaints on the boards. Look earlier in this thread for my similar gripes. Many of us wish Graphisoft would just finish the basics. I myself have given up on ever having the ability to create a typical fascia easily. I don't know why these items never get fixed. I expect version 12 will have a Gehry setting that will distort your almost completed model but I still won't be able to create a decent stair. &lt;BR /&gt;
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But as for upgrading, I have decided that it isn't beneficial to complain about not spending my money. I find 10 to be a good product with parts that I still haven't fully explored so I'll just settle in with it for another year or so and really learn how to use what I've got. Expect to see a lot of questions on other threads. (I still can't get complex profiles to do what I want)&lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/S&gt;(How's the weather up there, I heard you got quite a bit of snow???)&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
Just a couple of inches- It's mostly gone now. A bummer for the fruit trees though. I'm not expecting any apples this fall.</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 15:26:51 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Brad Elliott</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2007-05-24T15:26:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78943#M40752</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;T&gt;ArchiCAD 11 will come soon (as much as I suspect..)&lt;BR /&gt;
What can AC 11 do better than AC10?&lt;/T&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:08:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78943#M40752</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T10:08:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78944#M40753</link>
      <description>Anyone who knows is bound by an non-disclosure agreement. You shouldn't get an answer here until GS publicly announces it.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Cheers,&lt;BR /&gt;
Link.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:16:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Link</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T11:16:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78945#M40754</link>
      <description>I'd it expect it to be October / November 2007. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Outside bet that it could be announced at Septembers archicad university , but I wouldnt bank on it!!</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 11:32:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78945#M40754</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T11:32:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78946#M40755</link>
      <description>Remember that when AC10 came out,  GS claimed that they are on a 12-month release cycle now, so May or June is likely.&lt;BR /&gt;
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So far, there has not been any official statements about AC11 from Graphisoft.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:28:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78946#M40755</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T13:28:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78947#M40756</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;TomWaltz wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Remember that when AC10 came out,  GS claimed that they are on a 12-month release cycle now, so May or June is likely.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Gotta keep up with the Jones....</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:49:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78947#M40756</guid>
      <dc:creator>Scott Davis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T17:49:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78948#M40757</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Scott wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;TomWaltz wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Remember that when AC10 came out,  GS claimed that they are on a 12-month release cycle now, so May or June is likely.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Gotta keep up with the Jones....&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

assuming the Jones' ever catch up...</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:55:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78948#M40757</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T17:55:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78949#M40758</link>
      <description>If AC11 will come soon, it must be much better than AC10.&lt;BR /&gt;
But it is almost impossible.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:27:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78949#M40758</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T18:27:21Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78950#M40759</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Archi wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;If AC11 will come soon, it must be much better than AC10.&lt;BR /&gt;
But it is almost impossible.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

It's impossible.... because 10 is so good? Or because it's rare to have two great releases in a row?</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:42:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78950#M40759</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T18:42:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78951#M40760</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;TomWaltz wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Scott wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;TomWaltz wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Remember that when AC10 came out,  GS claimed that they are on a 12-month release cycle now, so May or June is likely.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Gotta keep up with the Jones....&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

assuming the Jones' ever catch up...&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Ha!  That's funny considering AC would be no where near a 12 month release cycle if it weren't for Revit's release cycle.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:05:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78951#M40760</guid>
      <dc:creator>Scott Davis</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T20:05:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78952#M40761</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;TomWaltz wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Archi wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;If AC11 will come soon, it must be much better than AC10. &lt;BR /&gt;
But it is almost impossible.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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It's impossible.... because 10 is so good? Or because it's rare to have two great releases in a row?&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
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AC 10 is quite enough as CAD. Normal (or special but not crazy) architects can do everything without problem with AC10. &lt;BR /&gt;
GS must consider to sell more AC10 (not to make AC 11) worldwide and bring more tips and show more possibilities with existing tools. &lt;BR /&gt;
Allplan or VW or Revit has no chance.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:18:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78952#M40761</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T20:18:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78953#M40762</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Scott wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Ha!  That's funny considering AC would be no where near a 12 month release cycle if it weren't for Revit's release cycle.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

And Revit would be no where near where it is if it weren't for ArchiCAD... &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_lol.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:39:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78953#M40762</guid>
      <dc:creator>Laura Yanoviak</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-15T23:39:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78954#M40763</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Archi wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;If AC11 will come soon, it must be much better than AC10.&lt;BR /&gt;
But it is almost impossible.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
 At least, it is nice to see such a lover of AC10  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_confused.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_confused.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 06:11:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78954#M40763</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T06:11:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78955#M40764</link>
      <description>Hey Scott, &lt;BR /&gt;
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An honest question, not trying to be sarcastic or stir things up, none of that even though it cold be taken that way, HONESTLY! After the last go-round about Nemetschek I am really hoping for a new level of maturity and productivity to emerge. That was flat embarrassing!.............Anyway, I digress, I am kind of confused about why you participate over here, in AC-land? Is it just to raise a little hell? Drum up sales for your guys by "dissing" our product, [from your signature it seems that would directly benefit you, and Lord knows we do a pretty good job of that all on our own  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_confused.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; ], or, well, I mean, well, I just don't really get it. Why spend your time over here? I don't really care one way or the other, just plain curious after seeing your smilin' avatar and, shall we say, &lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/S&gt;competitive&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt; comments over the past however long it's been.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 06:24:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78955#M40764</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jefferson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T06:24:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78956#M40765</link>
      <description>May I ask when was AC10 window version released?</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 06:56:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78956#M40765</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T06:56:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78957#M40766</link>
      <description>Scott. It is just Mouse hunt. More important from how often software is released is how much work have been done during certain time frame. I think AC looks better in that area. And one more thing. AC previous cycle as I remember was 18 months, so not that much different.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:15:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78957#M40766</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T12:15:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78958#M40767</link>
      <description>In the german ArchiCAD-Forum, Graphisoft is seeking for AC11-Beta-Tester:&lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;A href="http://www.archiforum.info/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=007397" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.archiforum.info/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=007397" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.archiforum.info/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=007397" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/S&gt;&lt;LINK_TEXT text="http://www.archiforum.info/ubb/ultimate ... 3;t=007397"&gt;http://www.archiforum.info/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=007397&lt;/LINK_TEXT&gt;&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:59:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78958#M40767</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T12:59:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78959#M40768</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;ray wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;May I ask when was AC10 window version released?&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

I think it was late May 2006</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:02:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78959#M40768</guid>
      <dc:creator>TomWaltz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T13:02:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78960#M40769</link>
      <description>Such short intervals between the releases trouble me! Is it really enough for a new version? If you have looked at AutoCAD during the recent years the have had 6 releases since the year 2000 and no major new tools!  &lt;BR /&gt;
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It is like the washing machines commercials: "Here is the NEW Ariel! Go buy it! It makes white even more whiter!"  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_biggrin.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_mad.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_cry.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:07:06 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T13:07:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78961#M40770</link>
      <description>I agree with kliment, Autocad and Revit are both upgraded every 12 months, however there is not much to show for it, particularly autocad.&lt;BR /&gt;
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GS who have had a policy of 18 month cyclical upgrades tend to pack more things in. I think id vote for 18 and more, rather than 12 and less!</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:25:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T13:25:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 11</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-11/m-p/78962#M40771</link>
      <description>To be honest there have been a lot of work done. Major changes just since 2002 (after version 7 not chronologically - just from the top of my head - correct me if I'm wrong)&lt;BR /&gt;
-real OpenGL in 3D (not some preview window)&lt;BR /&gt;
-functional right mouse button&lt;BR /&gt;
-Scroll zoom&lt;BR /&gt;
-Total Interface rework (personally for the best - still things to be done but much better that before)&lt;BR /&gt;
-Plotmaker Integration (with total rearrangement of menus - again personally I love the idea - bit a learning curve for the old AC users but totally worth it. Some changes, adjustments needed though)&lt;BR /&gt;
-Solid Element Operations - that was a hit but it needs improvements (like snapping to new points and edges, effects of operation visible in plan etc)&lt;BR /&gt;
-Custom profiles - again a hit that requires improvement (not usable in Curved walls, just one pair of stretching lines, lack of parameters, no profiles for Slab and roof edges&lt;BR /&gt;
-Favorites - I like it a lot - it could be improved (as always)&lt;BR /&gt;
    -Locking of favorites to the elements - changes to the favorite setup modify all the objects that have this favorite assigned&lt;BR /&gt;
    -Possibility to assign selected set of attributes per object (just geometry but not pens and layers for example.&lt;BR /&gt;
    -Using Favorites in indexes (Column schedule)&lt;BR /&gt;
    -Possibility to modify the Favorite directly from the Tool properties window&lt;BR /&gt;
    -Favorites with preview&lt;BR /&gt;
    -Favorites for Objects, Lamps, should have hierarchical structure so we could create customized libraries without library editing&lt;BR /&gt;
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That's it for now, but there is lot more.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:34:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-01-16T13:34:30Z</dc:date>
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