topic Re: Toolbox problem in Modeling

Toolbox problem

TomWaltz — Fri, 26 May 2006 13:06:34 GMT

I've seen this a few times in AC9 and it continues in 10. I'm hoping some who's better with the Work Environment might have an answer.

When using a custom Toolbox in Archicad, sometimes the Toolbox goes off the bottom of the monitor, making it impossible to grab the lower-right resize corner. (Apple, obviously).

Is there some other way to grab the corner to make the box shorter? I really don't want a full-height toolbar!

Re: Toolbox problem

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2006 14:46:50 GMT

I haven't seen this particular behavior. (I assume that it is a case of the toolbar spontaneously changing and not that you have it set that way on your Cinema Display.)

I have had my toolbar "fatten up" spontaneously from my usual single column of tools to the three column style in your screen shot, but it stays its original height. (This only seems to happen after an error in the 2D Full View or 3D View of the library part editor.) I usually just stretch it back, but it also works to reapply the work environment.

Re: Toolbox problem

TomWaltz — Fri, 26 May 2006 15:02:37 GMT

Matthew wrote:
I haven't seen this particular behavior. (I assume that it is a case of the toolbar spontaneously changing and not that you have it set that way on your Cinema Display.)

I have had my toolbar "fatten up" spontaneously from my usual single column of tools to the three column style in your screen shot, but it stays its original height. (This only seems to happen after an error in the 2D Full View or 3D View of the library part editor.) I usually just stretch it back, but it also works to reapply the work environment.

Right, The Toolbox opens that way when turned on from the "Windows > Floating Palettes...." menu. Since there is no resize corner available, I cannot get to the width or the height.

I ended up using a different Palette Scheme then modifying it back to the way I wanted. Kind of a pain, but at least it works.

Re: Toolbox problem

James Murray — Fri, 26 May 2006 17:59:04 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
I ended up using a different Palette Scheme then modifying it back to the way I wanted. Kind of a pain, but at least it works.

That's the only way. I switched to a two-column toolbox, partly to get away from that problem.

Re: Toolbox problem

Link — Sat, 27 May 2006 00:34:57 GMT

That's the only way. I switched to a two-column toolbox, partly to get away from that problem.

I haven't had access to a mac for a while now, but are you able to double click on the top of the Toolbox (where it says Toolbox), and have it return to it's original position?

This can be done on a PC to switch the position of the palette from docked to non-docked. I was just wondering (even though palettes don't dock the same way) if you could use the same method on a mac to at least solve the last part of the problem?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Toolbox problem

Dwight — Sat, 27 May 2006 01:58:43 GMT

Then there's this OTHER toolbar that is tinier and gives no grief.

Re: Toolbox problem

Dwight — Sat, 27 May 2006 01:59:56 GMT

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Re: Toolbox problem

Anonymous — Sat, 27 May 2006 07:22:09 GMT

Dwight wrote:
Then there's this OTHER toolbar that is tinier and gives no grief.

I don't know why, but that one seems a little creepy to me. Maybe I should give it another go.

Re: Toolbox problem

Dwight — Sat, 27 May 2006 07:32:54 GMT

Why NOT be modern and look at all of those extra graphic toolbars/command grafix?

Re: Toolbox problem

Anonymous — Sat, 27 May 2006 13:16:56 GMT

Dwight wrote:
Why NOT be modern and look at all of those extra graphic toolbars/command grafix?

Or I could go deconstuctivist and make a separate floating toolbar for each tool.

Re: Toolbox problem

Dwight — Sat, 27 May 2006 13:21:22 GMT

OR Post-modern and just use shortcuts.
Wait! That would be reversionist.

Re: Toolbox problem

Anonymous — Sun, 28 May 2006 16:35:01 GMT

Dwight wrote:
OR Post-modern and just use shortcuts.
Wait! That would be reversionist.

Or minimalist. No palettes at all.

Re: Toolbox problem

Dwight — Sun, 28 May 2006 17:30:28 GMT

Yeah. Cool.
Option-Click on stuff to switch tools and transfer parameters.
Hard to believe it can work, but once you have a few walls and othe bits in the scheme, everything builds from there.

Re: Toolbox problem

James Murray — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:56:04 GMT

I'm with Dwight, I think. Unless you make use of the divisions (not me), move aside, Toolbox, make way for the Toolbox Tools Toolbar.

You can plant a tree in the reclaimed screen space.

PS, You're both winners. The important thing is to do your best!

Re: Toolbox problem

__archiben — Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:45:40 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
Is there some other way to grab the corner to make the box shorter? I really don't want a full-height toolbar!

tom, i've not tried this but what happens if you turn off the static state of the toolbox sections and make them collapsable? does the toolbox size itself collapse with them?

regarding toolbox vs toolbar . . . i'm with matthew: the toolbar ones are a little . . . strange, donchathink? besides, my anally retentive mind can't deal with any 'holes' in an application interface - the toolbox and the info box can be docked at the same width from the top to the bottom of the screen. (yes mr murray, i lose 5 tiles. but the gain to my sanity is worth much much more . . . )

~/archiben

Re: Toolbox problem

SeaGeoff — Sat, 24 Jun 2006 23:41:34 GMT

I was resistant but now I'm diggin' the toolbar. Not only is it smaller, you can reorder the tools and add other things. I added the Measure Tool and Create Independent Detail (mainly because, like Ben, I can't stand holes the perfect tapestry of my work environment).

Re: Toolbox problem

Dwight — Sun, 25 Jun 2006 00:07:24 GMT

Nice layout, sailor.

Tell us about your menu customs.....