topic Drawing Frame in Views in Modeling

Drawing Frame in Views

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:08:26 GMT

I'm a little confused about this. When I set up a view, I specify a certain zoom for that view. That zoom tells me what I can see in that view.

When I place that view in a layout, it places the entire drawing - not that view. Is there something I'm doing wrong?

In the image you can see how small the sheet is compared to the drawings being pulled in - I'm just trying to bring in a tiny portion of that drawing - which is what I see in the view.

Re: Drawing Frame in Views

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:15:22 GMT

This is the view that's in the View Map:

It's just some notes.

Should I be bringing notes in in a different way?

Or do you always have to go in a resize the frame on every single layout?

Re: Drawing Frame in Views

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:51:25 GMT

Another thing that happens:

The first time that I update the drawing after I've placed it, I get a blank rectangle, so I have to go into the drawing settings on the layout and select "Fit Frame to Drawing," and then go through the resizing the frame process again. From that point forward it seems to stay put.

It just seems kind of awkward and inefficient - which means that I'm probably doing something wrong.

Re: Drawing Frame in Views

Link — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:05:45 GMT

It should come in cropped to the saved zoom extents by default. This is regardless of what the drawing defaults are.

So you tried changing it via the Drawing's Settings> set Frame to Manually resized frame. Is your drawing a long way from the project origin?

Do you have the latest version of AC11?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Drawing Frame in Views

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:15:03 GMT

Link wrote:
It should come in cropped to the saved zoom extents by default. This is regardless of what the drawing defaults are.

So you tried changing it via the Drawing's Settings> set Frame to Manually resized frame. Is your drawing a long way from the project origin?

Do you have the latest version of AC11?

Cheers,
Link.

I wish it would come in that way.

Well, actually, what do you mean by saved zoom extents? Is that the zoom that I see when I open that particular view? If so, no, that's not coming in. The entire drawing is coming in.

After I manually resize the frame, then that box is checked by default.

In the original .dwg file that I brought in as a trace reference, the origin point was 900,000 feet away from the building. (No, I'm not kidding.) In order to correct that, I opened the original .dwg in ArchiCad and dragged the building back to the origin, then saved that drawing and merged the corrected drawing into this file.

Re: Drawing Frame in Views

Link — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:20:15 GMT

900,000 feet! What is that - 170 miles? Are you designing an oil rig by any chance?

I wonder if your trace reference was on, when you saved the view, and if you turn it off and save it again, will it make any difference?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Drawing Frame in Views

__archiben — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:20:24 GMT

in your Preferences>Layouts make sure that you have ticked the option to adjust each drawing frame to the zoomed area . . .

~/archiben

Re: Drawing Frame in Views

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:39:02 GMT

Link wrote:
900,000 feet! What is that - 170 miles? Are you designing an oil rig by any chance?

I wonder if your trace reference was on, when you saved the view, and if you turn it off and save it again, will it make any difference?

Cheers,
Link.

I had to get rid of the trace reference and go through the process of merging the .pln that I created from the origin corrected .dwg.

I have no idea of why the original drawing was created that way.

Re: Drawing Frame in Views

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:42:18 GMT

~/archiben wrote:
in your Preferences>Layouts make sure that you have ticked the option to adjust each drawing frame to the zoomed area . . .

~/archiben

Wow.

Thank you. That works.

Re: Drawing Frame in Views

Link — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:50:24 GMT

Too easy. Good one Ben. I had forgotten about that simple switch.

Still wondering why we need that option....

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Drawing Frame in Views

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:41:58 GMT

~sigh~

When I first place the drawing it works. YEAH!

When I update the drawing, I'm back to the same place. View way off in space and a manual re-trim is required. BOO!

But, hey, at least it saves me the first manual retrim - I'm grateful for that!

Re: Drawing Frame in Views

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:12:04 GMT

Try playing with the drawing's anchor point on the layout. I have the most success with "Use drawings Origin as Anchor", instead of picking a corner or midpoint, when drawing extents sometimes change.

Re: Drawing Frame in Views

__archiben — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:20:23 GMT

mc0m wrote:
When I first place the drawing it works. YEAH!

When I update the drawing, I'm back to the same place. View way off in space and a manual re-trim is required. BOO!

right - i think you've got something a little more major going on there than you first thought. once a drawing is placed - no matter how you do it - the cropped area is locked in place.

can you take us step-by-step through your process to see if we can find anything that might be amiss?

cheers
~/archiben

Re: Drawing Frame in Views

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:26:14 GMT

Thanks everyone for your help. Dave Tauer helped me get this to a point where I could get an intermediate set of documents out and now I'm on deadline with another set. The problem hasn't gone away, but at least I could get a preliminary set issued.

When I come back to this project, I'll write up the issue in more detail.

Thanks again and I'll look forward to hearing more.

Re: Drawing Frame in Views

Djordje — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:00:17 GMT

Do you maybe have a DWG placed somewhere? Is that DWG long way away from the origin?

The problem has been discussed before; can't find the link now ... sorry