topic Re: Viewing scale in Modeling

Viewing scale

Steve Jepson — Wed, 31 May 2006 21:27:55 GMT

Why can't I change the viewing scale by clicking on this? Is there a different place to do this?

Re: Viewing scale

Link — Wed, 31 May 2006 22:56:02 GMT

You're in a Master, so the scale is 1 to 1 right?

I guess the question is what do you want to achieve? If you want to change the scale of a drawing placed on a layout using that master, you can set that in the Drawing's Settings.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Viewing scale

Steve Jepson — Wed, 31 May 2006 23:14:39 GMT

I am trying to make a new master layout. I thought I could just open an old one in PlotMaker 9, copy and paste it into the new one.

It comes in ok, but not at the same scale. Apparently there is now way to change the viewing scale to match the (1/4"=1'-0") stuff I want to paste so this is probably not going to work.

Re: Viewing scale

Link — Wed, 31 May 2006 23:47:49 GMT

I thought I could just open an old one in PlotMaker 9, copy and paste it into the new one. It comes in ok, but not at the same scale

How are you doing this exactly? Are you copying the entire master, or just it's contents?

Regardless, any master it at 1:1 and cannot be scaled. It's a real-world working area, if you will. You can zoom, but not scale.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Viewing scale

Steve Jepson — Wed, 31 May 2006 23:55:48 GMT

just content. Text, lines, fills, things in my title block. Some of which were objects which I can not get to work even if I open the old 9.pln in 10, and resave it again as a new 10 .gsm.

looks ok in plan view. not ok in layout. all layers on. Actualy, this one is a problem. Why would the object look different?

I tried to make a detail out of the object. It wont work either. However, if I open the detail, I can paste it into the detail right next to it and it will look just fine. Something is not right.

Re: Viewing scale

Steve Jepson — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 04:13:17 GMT

apparently objects don't work in master layouts. I just used an external drawing.

Re: Viewing scale

TomWaltz — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 10:47:13 GMT

Steve wrote:
apparently objects don't work in master layouts. I just used an external drawing.

Objects do work in Masters. All my title blocks are objects for AC10.

Re: Viewing scale

TomWaltz — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 10:50:36 GMT

Steve wrote:
just content. Text, lines, fills, things in my title block. Some of which were objects which I can not get to work even if I open the old 9.pln in 10, and resave it again as a new 10 .gsm.

looks ok in plan view. not ok in layout. all layers on. Actualy, this one is a problem. Why would the object look different?

I tried to make a detail out of the object. It wont work either. However, if I open the detail, I can paste it into the detail right next to it and it will look just fine. Something is not right.

Did you check to see if any of the missing elements are showing in a white pen? (and as such are invisible)

Re: Viewing scale

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:56:02 GMT

Open your master layout and then make all layers visible. That got me once when I first started using 10.

Re: Viewing scale

David Maudlin — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:00:21 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
Did you check to see if any of the missing elements are showing in a white pen? (and as such are invisible)

Steve:

Also, try zooming in on the object. I have an object with text on the Master Layout that appears mostly blank when the entire page is shown, but the rest of the text shows up when I zoom in on the object. Printing is no problem.

HTH

David

Re: Viewing scale

Steve Jepson — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:11:45 GMT

I tried all of those things.

Does it work for you? do objects look ok to you when placed into a Master plan ? When I am in a master plan the objects don't even look right in the viewer. I click on the objects icon on the tool bar, choose an object, and it does not look right there either. When I switch to a floor plan and do the same thing everything looks fine. hmmmm...

Re: Viewing scale

David Maudlin — Fri, 02 Jun 2006 12:52:32 GMT

Steve wrote:
Does it work for you? do objects look ok to you when placed into a Master plan ?

Yes, the objects work in the Master Layout, and show correctly in the layouts. My objects are pure GDL, are you using bitmap images or the 2D drawing window of the object? (Guessing at what could be different, do you want to post the object?)

Steve wrote:
When I am in a master plan the objects don't even look right in the viewer. I click on the objects icon on the tool bar, choose an object, and it does not look right there either. When I switch to a floor plan and do the same thing everything looks fine.

Perhaps if you post a screen shot of how the object "does not look right", someone will get an idea of what is going on.

David

Re: Viewing scale

Steve Jepson — Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:59:31 GMT

I did post an image in the links above. it is called "parts not same"

Re: Viewing scale

David Maudlin — Sat, 03 Jun 2006 13:55:33 GMT

Steve wrote:
I did post an image in the links above. it is called "parts not same"

I was referring to what you are seeing in the "Viewer", which I was guessing is the object dialog box, but I am not sure. If you post the object itself, I will see if it works on my set up.

David