topic Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why? in Modeling

Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 13:15:07 GMT

Hi,
Could any one help me to understand why my Roof is being shown only partially?
Thanks,
Joseph

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:16:37 GMT

A larger widow.....

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Link — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:33:39 GMT

Because your cut plane is cutting through it. Try raising the cut plane up over the top of the ridge and you will see the whole roof properly. You may need to save a view like that otherwise the cutplane will probably be too high for your other plans.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:48:00 GMT

Link wrote:
Because your cut plane is cutting through it. Try raising the cut plane up over the top of the ridge and you will see the whole roof properly. You may need to save a view like that otherwise the cutplane will probably be too high for your other plans.

Cheers,
Link.

When I do that nothing shows!! Is there any other setting that I do not know of?
Thanks,
joseph

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:52:20 GMT

Joseph,
Something I don't understand.
It seems like you have set the line type
for overhead lines to solid and the line type
for contour lines to dashed. As far as I know
this is opposite to conventional standards.
If this is a normal hip roof that is.
Thank you,
Peter Devlin

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Link — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:56:36 GMT

I thought the same thing at first Peter, but the roof pivot lines indicate that it is a normal hip roof. I think we need more information, like what story it's on, what elevation it is at, and the roof's floor plan display options.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:05:46 GMT

Here they are:

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:06:37 GMT

And....

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Link — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:08:12 GMT

Your dashed line indicates floor plan display problems to me. I would suggest setting your floor plan display options to:

Show on Stories: All Relevant Stories
Floor Plan Display: Projected with Overhead
Show Projection: Entire Element

That should get you to a place where you can make more sense of it.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:08:26 GMT

Hello Link,
There is one way to get a "hip roof" to look like that
and it is to make the slope angle of all of the roofs negative.
But then you get a hopper roof which is why I said
"If this is a normal roof, that is".
As you say, we need more information.
Thanks,
Peter Devlin

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Link — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:13:02 GMT

Hey Peter

I know what you mean, but those little T's on the roof pivot line point to the upwards direction of the roof. Unless he entered a negative angle for his roof, it would be a normal roof.

You didn't enter a negative angle in your roof did you Joe?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:36:39 GMT

Hello Link,
Just to make sure, I made a normal hip roof and
the little T's point inward. Then I made the slope
of all the roofs negative and the little T's did not
change direction. They still point inward but of course
they now point down slope instead of up slope.
Thanks,
Peter Devlin

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:07:38 GMT

Link wrote:
Hey Peter

...You didn't enter a negative angle in your roof did you Joe?

Cheers,
Link.

No I did not, I you look at my Roof settings it shows 4:12.
Still the question remains? help

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Link — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:09:50 GMT

Did you make the changes I suggested earlier?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:31:33 GMT

Link wrote:
Did you make the changes I suggested earlier?

Cheers,
Link.

Made one change of raising the Plane Cut to 19' and nothing showed-up at all. Any other changes?

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Link — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:33:59 GMT

Maybe you should try the others?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:50:29 GMT

The dotted lines are your roof below the cutplane, the solid lines the roof above (as per your settings, uncut lines dashed, overhead lines solid), and as Peter alluded to originally. With your pivot lines the full width of the roof (probably as a result of creating the roof using the multi- roof geometry method) they look like outlines, but are not.

If you want to see the whole roof, change to "outlines only" display, which will disregard the FPCP.

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Link — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:01:04 GMT

The reason why most of it disappears when he deselects it (which I assume is what he means by showing partially), is because it is set to Cut Only.

Everything about this roof seems backwards to me (except the pitch ). After changing the Floor Plan Display settings, he may want to review the Structure settings.

What's the saying about leading a horse to water?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:43:34 GMT

Guys I am lost, tiered and kids have to be helped to sleep! Tomorrow I will try the suggestion. Till then good night.
Joseph,
Thanks

Re: Roof (Floor) Plane Cut Plan shows partially, Why?

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:14:39 GMT

Okay got it working by the two suggestions:

Stuart Said:
If you want to see the whole roof, change to "outlines only" display, which will disregard the FPCP.

This took care of the all the ridges to show up the way one would expect.
Thanks.

Link Said:
Floor Plan Display: Projected with Overhead

This also took care of the ridge lines but I do not under stand why the Cut Fill band shows up which the lower limit is the Cut Plane Height to the Current Story and upper limit (to create this band) is some were that I can not figure out where? Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Joseph