topic Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Modeling

ArchiCAD 10

Anonymous — Thu, 19 May 2005 13:40:53 GMT

Any news about when ArchiCAD 10 may be released and what new features it may have?

Re: ArchiCAD 10

Rob — Thu, 19 May 2005 22:18:09 GMT

I have read somewhere on this forum that it should be released in Feb-2006. No idea about new features...

Re: ArchiCAD 10

giza — Fri, 20 May 2005 11:23:15 GMT

o my god they killed Kenny hahahah:)
just a little joke with your beautiful avtar Rob

Re: ArchiCAD 10

Rob — Fri, 20 May 2005 23:38:46 GMT

hmmm-hmm, hmmm, hmmm-hmmm!

hmm

Re: ArchiCAD 10

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Aug 2005 10:51:09 GMT

am waiting ernestly for it but i think they should at least try and put in the ability to rotate walls along the z coordinate trim and shape anyhow you want in the section window to appear in 3D

Re: ArchiCAD 10

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Aug 2005 11:48:21 GMT

There are many important features missing from archicad.
That is really bad.
We are in 2005, and archicad does not have a scripting environment.
You just have to use API.

Re: ArchiCAD 10

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:00:25 GMT

Archicad needs to have an option to rotate if not all models walls at least in all 3 directions...then to be able to trim the as we wish etc.

Also an option to make an object editable or transform it to simple polygonal model and then to be able to edit its mesh...

Not asking for nurbs and staf like that but simle poly modelling it is a must!!!

...cy,
Andronikos

Re: ArchiCAD 10

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:03:46 GMT

Archicad needs to have an option to rotate if not all models walls at least in all 3 directions. Then to be able to trim them as we wish etc.

Also an option to make an object editable or transform it to simple polygonal model and then to be able to edit its mesh...

...and to be able to bridge polygons together of course.

Not asking for nurbs and staf like that but simle poly modelling it is a must!

cy,
Andronikos

Re: ArchiCAD 10

Bruce — Thu, 04 Aug 2005 20:25:05 GMT

It also needs the option to place and / or copy elements in elevation and section.

Re: ArchiCAD 10

TomWaltz — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:30:50 GMT

Bruce wrote:
It also needs the option to place and / or copy elements in elevation and section.

I always wondered about the interface on placing something new in section... If a section is cutting along the X-axis, and your section shows the Y-Z axis, how do you control the Y-coordinate of what you are placing?

Would there be a "distance from section cut"? That's a little strange, since they are placed a bit arbitrarily. An absolute coordinate would be neat, but not something you would always know.

Would copy be more like "offset along the same axis as the section?"

It's a request I've seen a lot, and always wondered how it would actually function (more as an intellectual exercise than anything else).

Re: ArchiCAD 10

TomWaltz — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:32:22 GMT

oreopoulos wrote:
There are many important features missing from archicad.
That is really bad.
We are in 2005, and archicad does not have a scripting environment.
You just have to use API.

What's even worse is that not even the API allows full access to the program's environment and functions. There is a lot that has to be done from scratch because you cannot get to the Archicad version,

Re: ArchiCAD 10

Djordje — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:14:53 GMT

Bruce wrote:
It also needs the option to place and / or copy elements in elevation and section.

Where would you be placing them in space?

What is wrong with working in the 3D window? Sounds to me that many people still don't.

Re: ArchiCAD 10

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:19:57 GMT

Djordje unfortunately working in 3d is very limited.
There are no inference snaping (extentions intersections... and so on)

Look how you work and draw in Sketchup.

Archicad in 2d is very good. In 3d is below average.

You dont have easy relative positioning in 3d(in z dimention) and so on...

Re: ArchiCAD 10

gerd — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:04:40 GMT

hi,

I think, working in 3d is not so bad. I personally like the concept.
But in my opinion it is not always the best method to work in 3d view, because most things in an architectural plan and also in the virtual model will be placed in the x-y plane. the concept of stories reflect this special need of the architect and in my case most elements are placed in the floor plans.
I use the 3d view normally in a second step to modify the placed elements (change height or trim to roof, or multiply)
Placing elements directly in 3d is possible, but in which story it will be placed can only be controlled afterwards, not while placing.
--- this should be added in new version; I think, the story could also be shown like other attributes of the element (maybe i make a wish of that topic) ---
of course: if free form modelling will be available in archicad, the 3d view must be hopped up.

But at the moment it is really good, like it is. The user can change between the views according to the work, which will be done; some things will be betrter in floor plan view, others in 3d view.

best regards, gerd

Re: ArchiCAD 10

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:49:53 GMT

Just try to create and edit a complex mesh in 3d.
It is really very akward.

To change height and trim to roofs, its ok and very simple.
But if you want to actually draw in 3d its very difficult

Re: ArchiCAD 10

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:55:56 GMT

And a question to Djordje

For example i need to decorate an elevation in 3d.
Justdraw an arbitary 2d shape and give it some extrude.

If i could draw the outline on the elevation (like i do with a slab) and give it some height, i could easily do it.

BUT now?

How would you do it, and how would you then easily edit it (like you do with a slab)?

Re: ArchiCAD 10

TomWaltz — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:26:51 GMT

oreopoulos wrote:
And a question to Djordje

For example i need to decorate an elevation in 3d.
Justdraw an arbitary 2d shape and give it some extrude.

If i could draw the outline on the elevation (like i do with a slab) and give it some height, i could easily do it.

BUT now?

How would you do it, and how would you then easily edit it (like you do with a slab)?

The only way I know if is the "draw a polyline, copy it to plan, magic-wand it with a slab, and save as an object" method.... yucky, but it works.....

Re: ArchiCAD 10

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:12:21 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
The only way I know if is the "draw a polyline, copy it to plan, magic-wand it with a slab, and save as an object" method.... yucky, but it works.....

That's what I typically do, too. Really fast once you've done it a couple of times, but not ideal at all.

Another alternative - even more hassle though I think - is to use Profiler to extrude the fill (vs polyline) along a short line segment representing the desired object depth.

In any case, place the created object at the correct height back in the section window where you have full snaps.

Karl

Re: ArchiCAD 10

Petros Ioannou — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 06:39:32 GMT

Guys ,
I don't believe that Kostas (Oreopoulos) question had to do with how you do it, but with the difference of what we have now as an option and how it could (should?) be...

Petros

Re: ArchiCAD 10

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 07:22:21 GMT

Petros is correct

I do it that way to.
BUT this is a non creative way.

I cannot actually draw. See the result. Change it.. Continue
THis is why i included editing. Which is not possible in that way