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back to the fray

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:23:35 GMT

somehow, for some reason, dark and unknown...I am getting these fat line returns arond the windows. I want the lineweight to be the same as it wraps the wall...must be a radio button somewhere, a slider or dial or toggle or...any hints? thank you!

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Erika Epstein — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 06:21:38 GMT

In the composite settings dialogue box there is a place where you can chose your "skin end lines".

You can pick which pen you want for these ends, or check the 'hide' box..

the skin end applies also to edges cut by doors, windows etc.

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Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:40:01 GMT

thanks for your response, and I looked into the situation on my composite--I turned off all of the end lines, to no changes. So...another ccause? Here is another -and slightly more disturbing (or illuminating?) image...it appears that this thick line occasionally wraps the window, following the trim. Maybe a window setting, but I can't for the life of me figure it out.

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Erika Epstein — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:45:21 GMT

It also looks like you have your composite skins set to turn in.

Check "cavity closure" settings in your window dialogue box.

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Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:17:29 GMT

I'm not sure I looked at the right place...for the "cavity closure" situation...the attached jpeg shows a little box in the lower right, labelled "contours", which I fiddled with. I also messed with about 4 other variables in the window selection settings box...no single variable seemed to change anything, except when I unchecked the "use fills" dialog box in the 2D settings box, that seemed to do it. But oddly enough, other windows, which were not misbehaving, had the "use fills" box checked. The inconsistency of performance is driving me up the wall. It almost seems like a "display order" function, but it is my understanding that the windows and the wall they are embedded in are always represented at the same "level". thank you...!

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Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:18:54 GMT

the image

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Erika Epstein — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:47:06 GMT

Zobi,
Which window library are you using?

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Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:50:06 GMT

Its the SE9. Does that change things? Maybe more variables available to me to be disturbed by?

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Erika Epstein — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:05:26 GMT

Zobi,
It is in the same place in the SE library as the old one.
Look under the Parameters tab.
See attached.
If you set it to 'None' that should take care of it. If you want the closure wrapping then go back to the composite dialogue box and choose a pen with an appropriate lineweight

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Anonymous — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:10:14 GMT

hot dog! that looks worthy of exploration. Funny little hidden boxes...everywhere in this program.
A thousand thanks.

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Anonymous — Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:00:11 GMT

Whoops. NOT the trick, not at all. Here are two images (OK, one image, and the next in the next posting). The ONLY change I made between the two is the "use fills" checkbox. The filled sill masks the slab below, clearly, but also has that weird thick return line. The unfilled sill has no thick line issue, but you can see the edge of the slab below. This is weird and disconcerting.

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Anonymous — Thu, 01 Dec 2005 03:00:57 GMT

2nd image

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Erika Epstein — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 07:13:01 GMT

Zobi,
After going through your file, you are correct that it is the fill setting (Parameter's tab, Floor Plan, Use Fills) that is causing this problem.
When "use fills" is on, it also puts a line around the end of the wall and along the sides of the walls to the extent of the casing.

I can't find where one can set this pen. Playing with pen colors I was able to determine that this line is drawn with pen 1.

Has anyone else been able to find the setting for this pen and/or fill?

If there is no setting, hopefully it should be easy for programmers to change it to use the wall contour pen.

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Anonymous — Mon, 05 Dec 2005 21:24:47 GMT

Well, I just ended up changing Pen 1 to be what I wanted, and then changed everything else that was using Pen 1 to some other pen. Works OK, but what an ordeal.
In related news, I am noticing that when I turn on the "use fills" for the sills, my ghosted layer is masked...even though my ghosted layer is ABOVE the layer I am working on. This is distinctly UNhelpful to my well-being. But I will learn to accept, if there is no other way. Anyone?
Many, many thanks.

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Anonymous — Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:08:01 GMT

picture, attached

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__archiben — Mon, 05 Dec 2005 23:00:05 GMT

Zobi wrote:
In related news, I am noticing that when I turn on the "use fills" for the sills, my ghosted layer is masked...even though my ghosted layer is ABOVE the layer I am working on. This is distinctly UNhelpful to my well-being. But I will learn to accept, if there is no other way. Anyone?
Many, many thanks.

it is helpful because it shows you how archiCAD is dealing with the display of elements over other elements at print time.

it is unhelpful because it masks your ghost storey.

your pleasure is my pain . . . or something like that?

use your display options combinations . . . . and start reading the manual?!

HTHA
~/archiben

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Anonymous — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 00:01:21 GMT

thanks. I do read the manual, and could read it as I might study the bible, but even so, a lot gets lost. The forum is helpful.

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Djordje — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 03:11:55 GMT

Zobi wrote:
In related news, I am noticing that when I turn on the "use fills" for the sills, my ghosted layer is masked...

Can you set the fill so that it has transparent background?

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__archiben — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 03:44:09 GMT

Zobi wrote:
thanks. I do read the manual, and could read it as I might study the bible, but even so, a lot gets lost. The forum is helpful.

sorry zobi, i think i came across a little harsh! wasn't the intention . . .

cheers
ben

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Anonymous — Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:29:57 GMT

thanks, its all good!
It is a complex program for sure. So I have set up a display option combo which allows me to see the ghost story for alignment & editing, and another for shipping off to PlotMaker, which has an opaque fill.