topic Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers in Modeling

Annoyances with Detail Markers

Richard Morrison — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:19:24 GMT

I have tried using the linked Detail markers (I'm interested in the Detail Part markers) in plan views, but I:

1) Can't them to rotate to the vertical orientation.
2) I can't flip them to the horizontal orientation pointing down.
3) The Detail Part Marker_NCS11 doesn't have a separator line between 1st & 2nd lines of text, and looks terrible. (Not like the preview.)

I could certainly use a "dumb" marker, but then I wouldn't get the linking. I guess I can use the section marker, but it seems like the wrong tool. Any suggestions?

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:39:22 GMT

Richard wrote:
......3) The Detail Part Marker_NCS11 doesn't have a separator line between 1st & 2nd lines of text......

Yes it is making me crazy also!

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:07:19 GMT

Welcome to the club
Totally Broken as previously mentioned

archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=17037

I want/NEED the flexibility of the previous markers that worked in AC10, 09 and even 08. At this point I am using AC11 with the 10 libraries.

Now that the Markers are "Intelligent" they have decided that the way we want to use them is against their beliefs and they are in full revolt.

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Link — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:41:26 GMT

I wonder if this is a USA (NCS) specific problem? The INT version 'Built in Marker' works wonderfully

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:58:20 GMT

Link:

Can you extract it from the library and post it to try?

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Link — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 23:03:10 GMT

Sure. Please find it attached.

(For the record, I just opened the part and saved it out - much easier than extracting IMHO).

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 23:29:12 GMT

Sadly it behaves in the same way and it does not solve my prob. Look at the screeshots on the previously linked post.

archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=17037&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Link — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 23:40:50 GMT

So how many times do you have to tell your students to read the question?

Guess you'll have to use the AC10 detail markers until it's fixed.

(Still looking forward to hearing from you.)

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Eduardo Rolon — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:00:02 GMT

Let's hope that it is fixable, since somebody decided to change the code, the one in the AC10 Subset does not show the links to the drawings and the new one is not very flexible.

(…comments by friday at the latest)

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Richard Morrison — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:19:12 GMT

Link,

Thanks for that, but that's not the detail marker that's giving me trouble. I'm trying to get a marker like the attached, but able to be rotated.

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Anonymous — Sat, 07 Jul 2007 20:55:16 GMT

let's face it, these markers are supremely annoying, ornery, difficult, and perplexingly complicated.

it's doubly annoying that we're required to wade through such complexity to achieve such childish third-rate graphics!

I think the old "listing and calculations" team was out of work so they assigned them the detail markers, which exhibit the same high degree of unusability.

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Anonymous — Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:30:13 GMT

Richard wrote:
Link,

Thanks for that, but that's not the detail marker that's giving me trouble. I'm trying to get a marker like the attached, but able to be rotated.

I want to have also this one.
In the Revit this marker is standard marker.

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Richard Morrison — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:43:25 GMT

A followup-

I discovered that the markers CAN be rotated. (I hadn't noticd the "Marker Angle" setting.)

However, once placed, you can't just rotate them manually. You have to adjust the Marker Angle setting.

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:44:49 GMT

GS,
Why the missing separator line was not fixed in the latest update to AC & library??

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Anonymous — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:37:40 GMT

This beautiful marker is just for american colleague...

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Anonymous — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:05:23 GMT

I am also very frustrated with the markers. You can rotate them with the marker angle, but the text also rotates (do not like!). Also, when I change the separator line to dashed, it changes the line in the marker to dashed as well. Hello ArchiCAD developers!!!!! Where are you?

Re: Annoyances with Detail Markers

Da3dalus — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:00:12 GMT

I guess there's no solutions? It's pretty tragic. The markers were almost there in AC10. I was finally getting used to the function of each hotspot. I'd like to use the built-in markers for my latest templates, but they refuse to work correctly. It's like we're back to 8 or 9.

Keep this one running. Maybe we can see a library update before AC12 shows up. Actually, if they're going to do yearly upgrades, they need to make the library process smoother. Changing libraries is always the most painful part of the upgrade. Especially with critical parts like this.