topic Re: Parapet Coping how to... in Modeling

Parapet Coping how to...

Clay Phillips — Tue, 23 May 2023 15:11:07 GMT

I would like to show a stone coping on a portion of a building.

Is there a way to make a stone profile to do what is shown in the attached image by using Complex Profiles or is there another way (sweep, Object, etc.)

I'm new so speak slowly...

Re: Parapet Coping how to...

Anonymous — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:52:57 GMT

There are a few solutions on this problem.

The easiest way is to make a profile and apply that on beam tools. But there could be some trouble to make the horizontal piece to connect correct to the angled beam. Try and se if it works for you.

Another easy way is to buy for example "3d profiler tool" from Cadimage.

Self I would build a GDL object that could do this thing, but this object is not the easiest object to do if you aren't familiar with GDL-language.

Re: Parapet Coping how to...

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:32:45 GMT

Create a Complex Beam.
Beams can be inclined in ArchiCAD 10. Hopefully that is the version you are using.

Re: Parapet Coping how to...

Aussie John — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 02:06:55 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
Create a Complex Beam.
Beams can be inclined in ArchiCAD 10. Hopefully that is the version you are using.

Unfortunately inclined beams dont mitre in the vertical plane (retain vertical end face). SEO can be used to clean up the join but is messy as a number of operations are required

Re: Parapet Coping how to...

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 09:11:13 GMT

Aussie wrote:
laszlonagy wrote:
Create a Complex Beam.
Beams can be inclined in ArchiCAD 10. Hopefully that is the version you are using.
Unfortunately inclined beams dont mitre in the vertical plane (retain vertical end face). SEO can be used to clean up the join but is messy as a number of operations are required

The coping shown should miter at equal angles (as the beams do automatically) not vertically. This is not like a cornice to rake miter that does require a vertical miter (with SEOs and custom profiles to make a proper joint). It would seem strange to have a different coping profile for the sloping part that would be required for the vertical joint.

Re: Parapet Coping how to...

Aussie John — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:49:23 GMT

Matthew wrote:
Aussie wrote:
laszlonagy wrote:
Create a Complex Beam.
Beams can be inclined in ArchiCAD 10. Hopefully that is the version you are using.
Unfortunately inclined beams dont mitre in the vertical plane (retain vertical end face). SEO can be used to clean up the join but is messy as a number of operations are required
The coping shown should miter at equal angles (as the beams do automatically) not vertically. This is not like a cornice to rake miter that does require a vertical miter (with SEOs and custom profiles to make a proper joint). It would seem strange to have a different coping profile for the sloping part that would be required for the vertical joint.

I wasnt suggesting that the beams join along a vertical plane but that mitres dont work in the Z direction as distinct from the x/y plane

Re: Parapet Coping how to...

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:49:30 GMT

This can be done with an add on called Objective. No GDL is necessary and one object can be created and rotated vertically to any angle in any number of locations in the model. The ends of each instance of the object can be cut in any plane to mitre properly horizontally, vertically or even at a compound angle.
Visit the website to download a trial version.
www.encina.co.uk

Re: Parapet Coping how to...

Anonymous — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:36:57 GMT

Aussie wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Aussie wrote:
Unfortunately inclined beams dont mitre in the vertical plane (retain vertical end face). SEO can be used to clean up the join but is messy as a number of operations are required
The coping shown should miter at equal angles (as the beams do automatically) not vertically. This is not like a cornice to rake miter that does require a vertical miter (with SEOs and custom profiles to make a proper joint). It would seem strange to have a different coping profile for the sloping part that would be required for the vertical joint.
I wasnt suggesting that the beams join along a vertical plane but that mitres dont work in the Z direction as distinct from the x/y plane

Unless I am not understanding you, I have found that angled beams do miter in x/y/z correctly as long as the profile is appropriate to the function. It's just conditions like classical rake/cornice joints that require special attention.

Re: Parapet Coping how to...

Aussie John — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:17:03 GMT

Matthew wrote:
Unless I am not understanding you, I have found that angled beams do miter in x/y/z correctly as long as the profile is appropriate to the function. It's just conditions like classical rake/cornice joints that require special attention.

hmmmm. I must be missing something as the ends of the beams are always vertical for me.

Im talking about a custom profile with two beams end on end and one angled.

Re: Parapet Coping how to...

Aussie John — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:25:59 GMT

using a GS profile

Re: Parapet Coping how to...

Anonymous — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:59:22 GMT

Aussie wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Unless I am not understanding you, I have found that angled beams do miter in x/y/z correctly as long as the profile is appropriate to the function. It's just conditions like classical rake/cornice joints that require special attention.
hmmmm. I must be missing something as the ends of the beams are always vertical for me.

Im talking about a custom profile with two beams end on end and one angled.

Maybe I'm missing something. I'll have to look into it some more.