topic Re: very bizarre sill extensions in Modeling

very bizarre sill extensions

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 13:11:41 GMT

something new every day, you know...today, for no reason I can discern, my windows have these wacky-WACKY!-projections in elevation and in 3D. They are not visible in plan. The corner windows are simply windows, not a corner window. But they are set up to gang on both sides, anyway, so I can't figure out what is going on...thank you...

Re: very bizarre sill extensions

Djordje — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 07:36:17 GMT

Zobi wrote:
something new every day, you know...today, for no reason I can discern, my windows have these wacky-WACKY!-projections in elevation and in 3D. They are not visible in plan. The corner windows are simply windows, not a corner window. But they are set up to gang on both sides, anyway, so I can't figure out what is going on...thank you...

Is the Corner window function on?

Re: very bizarre sill extensions

Anonymous — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 18:04:22 GMT

No, they're not corner windows...they're just windows...is it possible to toggle on a "corner window" function for a plain old window? It's ALL of the windows that are doing that, though, not just those on the corners. Curiously, when I copied the wall and pasted it into a new (empty) model for unrelated reasons, it appeared that the problem disappeared altogether--indicating perhaps that it is a function of the model-space (or whatever it is called) or the file, rather than settings on the windows or the walls...suggestions?
Thanks!

Re: very bizarre sill extensions

Anonymous — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 18:41:48 GMT

Experiencing similar problems with the corner window tool. That does look like the function button is off, but it seems unstable to me. I have noted that the function disconnects automatically and don't know why. When I drag a door, for instance, close to the corner window (without touching it) it disconnects. My window is in a brick veneer wall with brick sill turned on. This particular home has a stucco wainscot below the brick sill which I have added using a thin wall. This seems to prevent the windows from joining at all. If I turn the wainscot layer off and join the windows, it works, then I can turn the layer on again and it stays connected. It's as if there is some sort of halo around it that triggers it off anytime some action is taken near it. BTW I am not using the SE Library on this project. Very frustrating.

Re: very bizarre sill extensions

Anonymous — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:17:59 GMT

Zobi wrote: "they're just windows...is it possible to toggle on a "corner window" function for a plain old window?"

I don't think so, you need to first select the corner window tool, then you can select any "plain old window" and place it as a corner window. This will add the toggle function to the parameters.

Re: very bizarre sill extensions

Anonymous — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:23:44 GMT

I've not been using cornerr windows because I couldn't get them to do what I wanted...maybe I will try again. Meantime, this weirdo problem of extensions exists...

Re: very bizarre sill extensions

Erika Epstein — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:56:53 GMT

James wrote:
This particular home has a stucco wainscot below the brick sill which I have added using a thin wall. This seems to prevent the windows from joining at all. If I turn the wainscot layer off and join the windows, it works, then I can turn the layer on again and it stays connected. Very frustrating.

James, you might check that the two walls, full and wainscot, don't have their reference lines on top of one another. [not quite sure how to word that].
I've found this usually resolves the problem.

Re: very bizarre sill extensions

Anonymous — Fri, 02 Dec 2005 22:34:16 GMT

Erika wrote:
James wrote:
This particular home has a stucco wainscot below the brick sill which I have added using a thin wall. This seems to prevent the windows from joining at all. If I turn the wainscot layer off and join the windows, it works, then I can turn the layer on again and it stays connected. Very frustrating.
James, you might check that the two walls, full and wainscot, don't have their reference lines on top of one another. [not quite sure how to word that].
I've found this usually resolves the problem.

Erika, You are right, they were on top of one another (because that's the easiest way to snap the wall to the other wall). Changing it definitely solved all of the problems with the corner windows. Thanks!

Re: very bizarre sill extensions

__archiben — Sun, 04 Dec 2005 00:47:42 GMT

zobi, are they from the special edition library?

i got the same result when i changed some existing windows to the special edition ones of the same variety. they meet well in plan, but their 3D is way out of whack. the previous windows met at the same point in 3D, although they didn't form a mitre. in this case, i couldn't use the corner window tool, because i still needed the wall to act as a corner 'post' separating the two windows.

it's a pain in the neck, but one i have reported to GS and hopefully they are working on fixing . . .

cheers
~/archiben

Re: very bizarre sill extensions

Anonymous — Mon, 05 Dec 2005 16:35:16 GMT

I feel like I have been heard...like I have been reporting sightings of aliens and no one believed me and then finally ArchiBen says yes, Virginia, there are aliens. Ok, weird Monday morning metaphors, and mixed at that, but YES, this is EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. The original win, swapped out for an SE version of the same, couldn't use the corner window tool...so what is the FIX? What is the workround? As I reported in an earlier post, it seemed that when I cut and pasted into a new model, the problem was fixed. But I didn't want to cut and paste my whole model unnecessarily...perhaps that is the only solution?
Thoughts?
Thanks!

Re: Corner Window functionality

Anonymous — Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:46:25 GMT

2 hours no corner window functionality!

selected corner window tool, picked a window from the Library, clicked on the wall, this is what I get... see PDF

Re: very bizarre sill extensions

Erika Epstein — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:58:22 GMT

Ghassan.
It would be helpful to those who might have an answer if you told us what steps you are taking.

For example step 1 is choosing the corner window tool...2 sleect your window...3 place your cursor on the wall corner etc.

Re: very bizarre sill extensions

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 23:32:57 GMT

Erika

steps are:

select the Corner Window tool.
Double Click on Tool Icon to open settings box.
Navigate to the AC90 Library to the Windows folder and select a wood window: fixed window. (I tried multiple windows)
check to make sure, sill height, head, width etc are OK.
Then I would navigate the mouse/cursor over the reference line of one of the two intersecting walls so that I get the mercedes sign.
I click to place the windows
And voila! no corner window (see PDF from previous post) it places the window such that it projects past the corner as a regular window.

Re: very bizarre sill extensions

Erika Epstein — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 23:55:56 GMT

When you place your cursor, wait until you get a checkmark at the corner of the wall.

Re: very bizarre sill extensions

Anonymous — Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:43:55 GMT

Still not working. Someone mentioned something about turning on corner window "functionality". where is this? window settings?, prefs?

When I mouse over the reference edge and wait, all I get is the mercedes sign, no check mark at the corner.

1st test: I click to place when I get mercedes sign - no good
2nd test: if I mouse over the corner of the wall and get a check sign - no good
3rd test: in 3D Window, using the Corner Window tool, works fine! This is however very tricky especially when you have complex models with many walls. The only way to place a corner window in the 3D view is to navigate to the wall reference edge whcih is sometimes near impossible with complex models.