topic Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING??? in Modeling

WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

matthewjj — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:10:58 GMT

Can anybody shed light on when the AC 11 grid tool will be available!!!

My team beta tested AC 11 and throughout the beta test the grid tool was available, albeit just as flawed as it was in 10. Then suddenly the tool was taken away from us when the final release came out. We were urged to used AC 11 on 'real' projects by graphisoft and so we did. We have real clients and we are working on a real $100m hotel and we need our grid tool back, asap.

*We have tried loading the RC1 grid tool but it doesn't get read by the final release.

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

Laura Yanoviak — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:15:53 GMT

Tell me about it!!! I've just started struggling with the same issue (checked today -- Goodies page hasn't been updated since May!) -- LJY.

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

Dennis Lee — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 23:50:58 GMT

This I feel is extremely unprofessional of Graphisoft.

I know as an underdog in the AEC software world, there are things that we can accept from Graphisoft that are a bit buggy and so forth, but on the other hand, Graphisoft should be more flexible and agile, in providing support / feedback on such basic things. If they found some bug w/ the grid tool, couldn't it have been addressed w/ maybe a job captain and couple of junior programmers few days & nights overtime work to fix it up? I mean this is what we do all the time in our small, underdog architectural office!

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

SeaGeoff — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:34:26 GMT

I too was part of the beta test and I too went looking, again, for the grid tool just yesterday, along with the SketchUp import add-on and MaxonForm for AC11. Graphisoft went 0 for 3. I am forced to agree that it is pretty bad form that these important pieces of the puzzle cannot be released simultaneously with ArchiCAD. The one year release cycle make this harder (for Graphisoft ) and at the same more important (for us). Unfortunately they are establishing a system where users are almost forced to wait until half way through a version's lifespan before they can be confident in deploying it on a critical project. Let's just hope they do not drop the ball completely like they have in the past...

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:40:54 GMT

Geoff wrote:
I too was part of the beta test and I too went looking, again, for the grid tool just yesterday, along with the SketchUp import add-on and MaxonForm for AC11. Graphisoft went 0 for 3. I am forced to agree that it is pretty bad form that these important pieces of the puzzle cannot be released simultaneously with ArchiCAD. The one year release cycle make this harder (for Graphisoft ) and at the same more important (for us). Unfortunately they are establishing a system where users are almost forced to wait until half way through a version's lifespan before they can be confident in deploying it on a critical project. Let's just hope they do not drop the ball completely like they have in the past...

Well said, Geoff.

I would say it even more strongly. It would be merely 'bad form' if these things were not ready, but there was at least a message with a time table from the head of ArchiCAD development and/or marketing.

Given a complete lack of communication from GS, I would choose words not appropriate for the forum.

Karl

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

__archiben — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:09:15 GMT

Karl wrote:
Given a complete lack of communication from GS, I would choose words not appropriate for the forum.

yes. those would be my words too karl. it's downright unprofessional the way graphisoft dribble bits and pieces of software to their users.

i'm still waiting for the mac version of the AC10<>sketchup plug too. simply because i can't use the rubbish that is archicad 11.

at least the grid tool is now downloadable. haven't installed it, but it's there now . . . (for INT at least . . .)

ben

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

Laura Yanoviak — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:13:10 GMT

~/archiben wrote:
at least the grid tool is now downloadable. haven't installed it, but it's there now . . . (for INT at least . . .)

...still not for USA...

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

__archiben — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:47:46 GMT

Laura wrote:
...still not for USA...

will the INT version work with USA archicad?

(substitute the 'USA' part of the URL with 'INT' . . . )

~/ben

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

Dennis Lee — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 04:37:38 GMT

It is there for the USA version now (7/4/2007) !!!
Great way to celebrate the independence day. Thank you Graphisoft!

I've played w/ it a little bit, but seems like a much improved and much more stable than the previous one for V10.

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:36:28 GMT

Did everybody get this email from Graphisoft:

Dear Valued Customer,

We wanted to let you know that the Grid Tool add-on has now been posted to the Goodies site for ArchiCAD 11. You can access this download page from the ArchiCAD Help menu.

We sincerely apologize for the delay in releasing this add-on which we realize is essential for many of you. In the process of improving the grid functionality, we encountered quality assurance issues that took longer to resolve than we anticipated. Even though this tool is essential for many of you, keep in mind our disclaimer on the Goodies page:

GOODIE TOOLS ARE PROVIDED TO YOU ‘AS IS’, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. BY DOWNLOADING YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IN NO EVENT SHALL GRAPHISOFT AND/OR ITS RESPECTIVE SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF INFORMATION AVAILABLE FROM THE SERVICES THESE TOOLS PROVIDE.
Rest assured, that we are working deligently on the Google Connectivity add-on for all platforms which was announced two months ago on May 2nd, and which we had intended to include with the first release of the English and German versions of AC 11. We will let you know just as soon as it passes QA.
http://www.graphisoft.com/company/press_zone/ac11_google_earth.html

We have no information to share concerning MaxonForm for 11 at this point.

We truly value your business, and apologize for announcing product release dates that we could not meet. We will be providing several valuable, free add-ons later this year as a gift to all ArchiCAD 11 owners to keep your good will.

Sincerely,

Didn't receive this? Me neither.

Karl

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

TomWaltz — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:39:39 GMT

Karl wrote:
Didn't receive this? Me neither.

then where did you get it?

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:46:31 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
Karl wrote:
Didn't receive this? Me neither.
then where did you get it?

You didn't notice your screen covered with the thick sarcasm dripping from the post? I was dreaming that perhaps GS had a customer relations department...

K

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

TomWaltz — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:53:00 GMT

OH, so we're not getting free addons later? 😞

(here I was hoping you found that somewhere and it was real)

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

Laura Yanoviak — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:11:15 GMT

Ummm...

What happened to the button that allowed you to choose the marker?

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:44:50 GMT

Laura wrote:
Ummm...

What happened to the button that allowed you to choose the marker?

Hmm.. I see the same thing, Laura... and the HTML help file that is included has info and screenshots from AC 10 and not AC 11. Time to refer back to the imaginary letter from customer support a few posts back... 😉

(Note to anyone trying this tool for the first time: you must add it to your work environment in several places. Add to the toolbox, then for Tool Settings Dialog Boxes, enable all panels for the grid tool itself, and then in the Section and Elevation tools, enable the Grid Tool panel.)

Karl

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

Karl Ottenstein — Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:44:47 GMT

OT from the Grid tool, I earlier had written:

Karl wrote:
Did everybody get this email from Graphisoft:

Dear Valued Customer,

...Rest assured, that we are working deligently on the Google Connectivity add-on for all platforms which was announced two months ago on May 2nd, and which we had intended to include with the first release of the English and German versions of AC 11. We will let you know just as soon as it passes QA.
http://www.graphisoft.com/company/press_zone/ac11_google_earth.html

...

My apologies to GS for the excess sarcasm above...as I just found the Google Connectivity downloads by clicking three links deep on the GS web site to find this download page with versions dated May 6:

http://www.graphisoft.com/products/archicad/solutions/ge_earth_connections_download.html

(From GS home page, click link to get to:
http://www.graphisoft.com/company/press_zone/ac11_google_earth.html
which has link to
http://www.graphisoft.com/products/archicad/solutions/google_earth_connection.html
which links to the download page.)

Perhaps GS can include a link to this and similar pages on the Goodies page to make it a little easier on us?

Karl

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

SeaGeoff — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 00:31:23 GMT

Karl wrote:
My apologies to GS for the excess sarcasm above...as I just found the Google Connectivity downloads...

Windows only I'm afraid, so your apology is unwarranted. For a company that touts Mac compatibility and performance on their web site Graphisoft's Mac support is terrible.

The tragic irony of the solutions page, where the Mac banners are found, is that half of the solutions don't run on Macs, not to mention the fact that Google Earth for Windows is the only one that has been updated for ArchiCAD 11.

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

Karl Ottenstein — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 04:19:33 GMT

Geoff wrote:
Windows only I'm afraid, so your apology is unwarranted.

Whew, thanks, Geoff. I do hate having to apologize for things, so glad you got me out of it. 😉

Yes, the 'solutions' page is extremely misleading to Mac users...and wrt some items, such as SketchUp and Maxonform, to all users of 11.

Karl

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

Greg Kmethy — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:58:10 GMT

Geoff wrote:
I too was part of the beta test and I too went looking, again, for the grid tool just yesterday, along with the SketchUp import add-on and MaxonForm for AC11. Graphisoft went 0 for 3.

Let me make up for some of the informations missing - we will update the sites too.

Grid tool is released for English-speaking language versions. Others will follow in the next 2 week.

SketchUp add-on for Windows will be posted this week, for Mac I can not give a date. There is still an unresolved problem with the SketchUp framework that causes instability within the Add-On. This is why we could never release the Add-on for Ac 10, and this is why it is still not available for AC 11. Our developers are in continuous talks with the SketchUp developers, but there is no solution yet. We hear clear and loud your frustration over this issue, but Graphisoft can't solve this isue alone.

MaxonForm connectivity add-on is scheduled for early August. The C4D add-on will follow a few weeks later

Re: WHEN IS GRID TOOL COMING???

Eduardo Rolon — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:30:10 GMT

If by the C4D link add-on you refer to the Exchange PlugIn it has already been released by Maxon.

www.maxon.net/pages/download/plugins_e.html