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How I can do that in archicad

Anonymous — Tue, 30 May 2023 12:41:22 GMT

How I can made the Handrail in balcony for first floor and second floor

mean I have curved balcony with short wall and railing above ....

may be i can make the bulaster with profiler tool but how i can creat it

with the curved bath for balcony .. ??? may be put it one by one but

it's to hard ... any one have the easy method for do that .....

sorry for my bad English ....

thanks for all [/img]

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:46:59 GMT

Nice model for people to look at and ask "can I model that?". 😉

The balconies and rail are easy, as you say - curved slab,
Magic Wand curve wall above, Profiler for bands and rail.

The ironwork lattice between the half-wall and handrail is the challenge.

If this only has to look correct in photorenderings, then it is easy - use a curved wall and apply an alpha transparency texture image of the lattice: it will follow the curves and look fine from a distance (but paper thin close up of course) ...and cast shadows.

But, to show up properly in elevation and sections I guess you'd have to model it. You can create one panel and then place it tediously... but it looks like the panels themselves are curved? I suppose another fake - the geometry would be distorted and edge angles wouldn't be right - would be to model a curved wall the thickness of the iron/steel and then have a group of cutting masses to subtract the panel pattern from this wall ... duplicating and rotating the cutting group (or object) as needed to get the desired final result.

Will be interesting to read what other ideas are suggested...

[Edited: a careful reader noted that I typed "magic want" - which is of course the tool we all wish for. Corrected to "magic wand". 😉 ]

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:07:21 GMT

thanks for your suggest ....

I think we can draw 2 spline in the different level ( vertical distance panel ) and in elevation view you can complete the shape by draw line and

use truss maker

are this right for steel shape in balcony

.....

but what about the baluster in balcony at ground floor assume curved

balcony like the above

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:18:28 GMT

Profiler can make those balusters.
Draw a half cross section of the baluster using lines and arcs.
Group the lines and arcs and select them and
then select Profiler and make sure you
have the revolve profile icon selected.
Profiler will revolve the cross section through
360° and give you a solid shape.
Peter Devlin

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:42:33 GMT

As Karl said, the ironwork is the only challenge.

Here is an easy (once you get the hang) way of doing it:

1- Draw the holes of the lattice, not the iron itself.
2- turn the holes into windows. This is very easy to do, appliyng a slab to each hole and then turning that slab into a WALLHOLE.
3- use those windows on a curved wall, and voila!

ah, and have fun

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:47:15 GMT

Excellent tip, Miguel!

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Petros Ioannou — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:49:04 GMT

Krippahl wrote:
1- Draw the holes of the lattice, not the iron itself.
2- turn the holes into windows. This is very easy to do, appliyng a slab to each hole and then turning that slab into a WALLHOLE.
3- use those windows on a curved wall, and voila!
.......

Now, this is what I call a tip!
Bravo, Miguel!

Petros

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:37:30 GMT

Lateral thinking gets you anywhere

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Djordje — Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:07:34 GMT

Krippahl wrote:
As Karl said, the ironwork is the only challenge.

Here is an easy (once you get the hang) way of doing it:

1- Draw the holes of the lattice, not the iron itself.
2- turn the holes into windows. This is very easy to do, appliyng a slab to each hole and then turning that slab into a WALLHOLE.
3- use those windows on a curved wall, and voila!

ah, and have fun

Did you say CURVED? 😉

Not so easy, although close enough.

Great tip!

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:18:43 GMT

Djordje wrote:
Not so easy, although close enough.

"easy" is pep talk
As I teach Uni students, I always say it is easy, otherwise they won't even bother to try

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Djordje — Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:21:55 GMT

Krippahl wrote:
Djordje wrote:
Not so easy, although close enough.

"easy" is pep talk
As I teach Uni students, I always say it is easy, otherwise they won't even bother to try

Whatever you know is easy 😉

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:31:40 GMT

Djordje wrote:
Whatever you know is easy 😉

Sure, but unfortunately you have to learn it the hard way

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:21:13 GMT

Every such solution is actually a workaround.
What i would dream of?
Create a FLAT wall. Do the procedure miguel says and then i could curve the wall as i want and the structure will follow

The logic of stacked modifiers , as seen in 3d modelers would be very nice if it was ported to an architectural package. But ofcourse this goes to the wish list.

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Steve Jepson — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:14:56 GMT

That should work fine. Now then...what are some short cuts to drawing the widows? (rot iron work)

Say for example that you have found a picture of the rot iron detail you want to use on the web or you have a digital photo of it. Perhaps it is very complex and it would take forever to draw it. You could bring it into ArchiCAD as a figure, resize it to scale and trace it with a reasonable amount of success, but is there a better way? Some way to eliminate all the tedious drafting.

If you could convert image files like .jpg or .bmp into ArchiCAD things like lines or fills you would have found a very good short cut for lots of things.

Raster to Vector conversion probably has something to do with what I would like to be able to do.

I would like to be able to open an image in Photoshop, select everything of some same color, delete everything else and convert what I have left into an ArchiCAD fills or lines.

Is there any software out there that will turn an image file of lines into a single lines, splines, or fills that we could paste into ArchiCAD?

That is the trick I am looking for. I am sure something like this must be possible.

If you can scan a page form a book, convert it to a Word document, and paste it into ArchiCAD as editable text, why cant you scan an image file and have it converted into something that could be pasted into ArchiCAD as fills and/or lines?

Could ArchiFaçade be used for this kind of thing?

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Petros Ioannou — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:21:33 GMT

Well there is a procedure but not easy and not very accurate.
Trace the areas or outlines inside photoshop, create paths , export them to Illustrator , save as DXF/DWG , import them in ArchiCad and scale them.

Petros

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Steve Jepson — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:35:29 GMT

That sound ok to me if "Trace the areas or outlines inside photoshop" is an automatic thing you can do some how in photoshop. (I don't know how to use it). Otherwise its not much better than trying to trace a figure in ArchiCAD.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.oldworldiron.com/images/ornamental.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.oldworldiron.com/gallery.html&h=193&w=124&sz=10&tbnid=uKSHJtiIr1cJ:&tbnh=98&tbnw=62&hl=en&start=99&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dornamental%2Biron%2Bwork%26start%3D80%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26rls%3DGGLR,GGLR:2005-49,GGLR:en%26sa%3DN

How about Plan2Model. How does that work ?

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Djordje — Wed, 04 Jan 2006 03:09:40 GMT

oreopoulos wrote:
Every such solution is actually a workaround.
What i would dream of?
Create a FLAT wall. Do the procedure miguel says and then i could curve the wall as i want and the structure will follow

The logic of stacked modifiers , as seen in 3d modelers would be very nice if it was ported to an architectural package. But ofcourse this goes to the wish list.

You have it in MaxonForm. Exactly what you described.

It is the logic od the 3D modelers.

Re: How I can do that in archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 04 Jan 2006 09:05:18 GMT

I know Djordje.
If Maxonform could save in native Archicad Objects (not as a gdl mess) i would never mention it.
I hope this would be possible soon