topic Re: Square footage in Modeling

Square footage

Tom Krowka — Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:13:31 GMT

I have a Client that wants every space in the project named. Then he wants to have a square footage calc. of each space, no matter what it is or what it is used for.

What would be the easiest way to accomplish this? Zone on the drawing, then generate a schedule from the zone?

Re: Square footage

Link — Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:43:17 GMT

Yes it is. Or if you wanted to be quick'n'dirty you could use fills and text.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Square footage

Tom Krowka — Sat, 15 Jan 2005 21:16:39 GMT

Do fills have the s.f. listed when you select them?

Re: Square footage

Dwight — Sat, 15 Jan 2005 23:16:46 GMT

you can specify the area to show, and in the calcs, selected fills will add to get the gross.

each fill can be named as its ID so it will also list the space names in the calc.

this works pretty good for copied storeys.....

Re: Square footage

Steve Jepson — Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:09:55 GMT

don't forget, the text of the fill or zone can be dragged off separately to any location. I like using the zones because they update when you make changes. I used to use a title block that had several categories like total building footprint, heated areas, garage, decks, etc... update the zones and it will update the info on the title block.

Re: Square footage

Dwight — Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:27:46 GMT

Call me a luddite:

Even though area/text/fills seem cheap and nasty compared to the sophistication and ease of use presented to us by the usual calculation menu options, you can see what you are doing and nothng is cryptic. It is hard to get into trouble with fills for floor area stuff.

Re: Square footage

Link — Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:04:29 GMT

Steve has a good idea there, but with fills you don't have to update them manually.

That's the key for me, but I am semi-obsessed with automation. Job hazard!

Cheers,
Link

Re: Square footage

Dwight — Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:13:43 GMT

Back in the old days, before zones, I once did a four storey apartment building using individual fills to define floor areas for our obtuse FSR calculations, showing exactly where I thought the demarkation was. Each fill had a name: the apartment number. this was the fastest way I knew to keep track of the number of units and the ancillary space for the all-important net/gross calculations. That was what the client was most concerned with in the layout stage. It would be even easier with selection sets to instantly select the fills and do a basic calculation list....

Re: Square footage

Tom Krowka — Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:14:21 GMT

OK I can see using the fills. But how do I get the s.f. information to a list like a schedule without doing it by hand( typing in by hand the s.f. onto a schedule sheet)

Will the schedule maker pull information from fills? I need the room name, room number, and the gross square foot inside the walls. Is that what you meant by the calculation list?

I'm not at my computer, can't try the different options you have discussed. I'm trying to plan ahead for this week.

Thanks

Re: Square footage

Anonymous — Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:41:33 GMT

Tom wrote:
OK I can see using the fills. But how do I get the s.f. information to a list like a schedule without doing it by hand( typing in by hand the s.f. onto a schedule sheet)s

You can do this using the Interactive Schedule.

Tom wrote:
Will the schedule maker pull information from fills? I need the room name, room number, and the gross square foot inside the walls.

If you want this information in a list it would be much more easily accomplished using the Zone tool and the Interactive schedule.

Woody

Re: Square footage

Anonymous — Sun, 16 Jan 2005 15:58:34 GMT

Tom wrote:
I have a Client that wants every space in the project named. Then he wants to have a square footage calc. of each space, no matter what it is or what it is used for.

What would be the easiest way to accomplish this? Zone on the drawing, then generate a schedule from the zone?

Zones are definitely the way you want to go. You're probably going to need zones in the project anyway to generate door/wdw schedules etc....so why not also use them to list the spaces?

Zones are a powerful organizing tool:
-Your project is going to need roomnames so use the zone for this.
-Zones categories can be used to help organize how they are listed.
-Zones also can be controlled via display options to show or hide their visibillty, names etc.
-Keep in mind that as your design develops you can update the zones and the information you choose to schedule from the zones will update as well.

Re: Square footage

Dwight — Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:01:42 GMT

Reviewing the zone tool, I can see that the saw-off between the two tools is so rudimentary that I regret ever suggesting fills.

Re: Square footage

Aussie John — Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:01:52 GMT

IMHO Use zone stamps as you can then create a door schedule which knows which zone it is in.

Re: Square footage

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:32:53 GMT

Dwight Atkinson wrote:

"call me a luddite:

Even though area/text/fills seem cheap and nasty compared to the sophistication and ease of use presented to us by the usual calculation menu options, you can see what you are doing and nothng is cryptic. It is hard to get into trouble with fills for floor area stuff."

i can't agree more with this statement!

donald mac donald

Re: Square footage

Dwight — Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:45:29 GMT

They call me the luddite, I keep blowin' off my mouth
Well now, they call me the luddite, I keep blowin' off my mouth
I ain't got me no definitive answers, I don't carry me no correct grammar.

/ A - - - / D - A - / E D A - /

Been a change in the rendering engine, ain't no change in me.
Well, there's a change in the material definitions, ain't no change in me
And I ain't hidin' from nobody, down here in the basement in my underwear.

Well, I got that green light, baby, R,0, G,255, B,0,
I got that green light, baby, R,0, G,255, B,0.

etc.

Re: Square footage

Aussie John — Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:08:42 GMT

dont know how anyone with a 30" monitor could be a luddite but there you go.

Re: Square footage

Dwight — Mon, 17 Jan 2005 03:19:26 GMT

Not that my 2, 21 inchers weren't greying out and shorting out and fuzzing out after only three years of 24 hour use - what cra.p. Sony:

Shame on you.

A guy with a 30" display isn't a luddite.
He is a slave to fashion.
Fashion, and accessories.

PS: It is the bees knees.

Re: Square footage

Aussie John — Mon, 17 Jan 2005 04:09:08 GMT

So Dwight whats the report on the 30" - all its cracked up to be?

Re: Square footage

Dwight — Mon, 17 Jan 2005 04:27:34 GMT

Bees Knees = Swell.

Easy install on the new grafix card - more fan noise.

Fills the field of view. Tricky with my eyes/glasses combo - still don't have the perfect height.

A second one would be like an Irish drunk, when faced with two wishes from a Leprechaun and gets a bottomless bottle of whiskey for his first wish, asks for second bottle for the other hand.

PC Rag said it is not as unformly bright from all directions as it could be and they are right, but from stage centre it is uniform, sharp and text is clear to 8 pt.

Used to the size now, but visitors are dumb-struck. And DVD is great. No more tanning bed for me.

Satisfied, for once.