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    <title>topic Re: Show penetration lines in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98802#M51978</link>
    <description>Thank You guys for the tips and warnings, I'll try it next. May I point out the only feature of the special menu I'm interested in is the "Show penetration lines". I use it all the time when showing hidden line 3d views, since 'perfect' modelling can get too time consuming it's proved to be a great time saver for me. It has been around for a long time and I don't know why it hasn't been officially implemented yet. I'm sure it is used by many of us. Maybe I should add it to our wish list...</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:01:56 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Eduardo Bell</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2005-01-20T15:01:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Show penetration lines</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98796#M51972</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;T&gt;Is it possible to see the penetration lines in 3D hidden line mode in AC9/Mac?&lt;BR /&gt;
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For what I read in previous posts, it is possible to set it up from the Work Environment. However I can't see it in the Menu list, and can't get it to show up. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Up to 8.1  re-starting with the Opt+Cmd keys down would summon it up. No longer that easy?&lt;BR /&gt;
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Thanks, Ed&lt;/T&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:19:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98796#M51972</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eduardo Bell</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-01-19T02:19:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Show penetration lines</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98797#M51973</link>
      <description>Follow this tread: &lt;A href="http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=23418#23418" target="_blank"&gt;Special Menu?&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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Post again if you have further questions.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Woody</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:14:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98797#M51973</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-01-19T15:14:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Show penetration lines</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98798#M51974</link>
      <description>Hi Woody, &lt;BR /&gt;
thanks for the tip, that was the tread I had followed. I get stuck at step 3, since in my list in "All Commands by Theme" the "60-Special" menu does not show up. Do you know how do I get it to come up?&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks&lt;BR /&gt;
Ed</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:01:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98798#M51974</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eduardo Bell</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-01-19T16:01:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Show penetration lines</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98799#M51975</link>
      <description>Try this:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
On Mac you need to edit the plist file:&lt;BR /&gt;
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Open Users / username / Library / Preferences / com.graphisoft.AC 9.0.0 USA v1.plist file, find the Special Menu key and set value TRUE instead of false (just rewrite in the file, and save), then start ArchiCAD 9.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Do &lt;U&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/S&gt;not&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt; do a New and Reset&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
The Special Menu should appear&lt;BR /&gt;
Save your WE with the Special Menu showing&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
To quote from an earlier post:&lt;BR /&gt;

&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Matthew wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Remember that the &lt;B&gt;special menu&lt;/B&gt; is a developer toy that most companies would not even let us use. There is a bunch of junk in there that we don't even want. Let us accept that we get access to a few half implemented features for those of us intrepid/foolhardy enough to use/need/want them and not complain about lack of documentation. Graphiisoft needs to focus on the real development of official features for the next version. We can can handle the impromptu documentation of the special menu ourselves.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:00:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98799#M51975</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-01-19T21:00:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Show penetration lines</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98800#M51976</link>
      <description>May I please point out that you should use the special menu at &lt;FONT color="#ff0024"&gt;&lt;B&gt;you own risk&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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There are lot of tings that are under development  under the special menu. Please beweary that funny things can and may happen whilst using the special menu.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:49:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98800#M51976</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ben Odonnell</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-01-19T21:49:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Show penetration lines</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98801#M51977</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Ben wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;May I please point out that you should use the special menu at &lt;FONT color="#ff0024"&gt;&lt;B&gt;you own risk&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

I'll second that! &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Never have been able to understand why ArchiCAD users always want to show the Special Menu. There are a few things there that one might use on &lt;U&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/S&gt;rare&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt; occassions but most of it is of &lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/S&gt;no&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt; value (I almost typed &lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/S&gt;very little&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt;) to the end user.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I think they want it because they think it will give them knowledge of Good and Evil... BEWARE...  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_twisted.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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Woody</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:11:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98801#M51977</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-01-19T22:11:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Show penetration lines</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98802#M51978</link>
      <description>Thank You guys for the tips and warnings, I'll try it next. May I point out the only feature of the special menu I'm interested in is the "Show penetration lines". I use it all the time when showing hidden line 3d views, since 'perfect' modelling can get too time consuming it's proved to be a great time saver for me. It has been around for a long time and I don't know why it hasn't been officially implemented yet. I'm sure it is used by many of us. Maybe I should add it to our wish list...</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:01:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98802#M51978</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eduardo Bell</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-01-20T15:01:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Show penetration lines</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98803#M51979</link>
      <description>Yes, it worked, many many thanks, it is awesome to have this forum.&lt;BR /&gt;
Ed</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:25:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Show-penetration-lines/m-p/98803#M51979</guid>
      <dc:creator>Eduardo Bell</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2005-01-20T15:25:18Z</dc:date>
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