topic Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan in Modeling

zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

__archiben — Thu, 25 May 2023 16:22:49 GMT

an increasingly annoying quirk that i'm trying to chase down:

often when panning and zooming with the scroll wheel i can be sent miles away from the actual drawing/model area. a click on the navigator preview can sometimes get me back in an instant, but not always.

i'm trying to convince graphisoft that i'm not going mad! anybody else out there experiencing this? if so, please could you give a little information about your set-up (the more the merrier!):

• your platform (mac or pc)?
• your mouse make?
• do you use the navigator preview a lot?
• do you have navigator preview data turned off in the '2D redraw' preferences?
• does it happen all day every day or just when opening a new file?
• have you found other ways around it?
• when did you first notice it?
• etc...

(or am i really just going slightly mad . . . )

thanks
~/archiben

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

James Murray — Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:09:28 GMT

Ben,

I don't know if it's the same issue, but I sometimes get a blank screen while zooming, seems to happen if I hesitate and the scroll wheel slips to the next notch. I use fit in window to get back. I've always assumed AC was trying to zoom and rebuild at the same time and got confused.

I never thought about it, but it could be sending me far away, and I wouldn't realize it because I don't use the Nav preview. I'll try to notice the next time it happens.

I use MS mice and have observed the problem on both my machines. I keep the preview data off, since I don't look at it anyway. It's been a chronic but manageable issue throughout 8.1, maybe longer.

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

__archiben — Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:18:33 GMT

thanks james

try working with the nav preview palette on screen for a while, and then the next time it happens just click once in the nav preview window - see what happens . . .

~/archiben

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

RandyC — Mon, 16 Aug 2004 23:57:58 GMT

This has happened to me too
only occasional on Win2000 machine
shoots me a long distance away ,
Archicad Ver 8.1 R2
Microsoft Intellimouse Optical
No Navigator preview
I don't know what triggers it
I have noticed it only since upgrade to Ver.2

Regards, Randy Clarkston

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Aug 2004 09:11:19 GMT

deja vue.. same here, I just thought I was being careless..

Apple PowerMac G5 dual 2.0
ATI 9600 (64MB version)
using a Wacom tablet w/ wheel mouse

+pablo

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

Djordje — Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:39:36 GMT

Pablo wrote:
deja vue.. same here, I just thought I was being careless..

Me six; Xp machines, brand mice, brand machines.

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

Link — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 01:00:23 GMT

I've noticed this happen when the manufacturer's drivers are installed. Uninstalling the drivers usually fixes it for me. Trouble is - you don't get the same functionality out of your mouse. I'm not saying this is the cure-all, but it definitely will cure some cases.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

__archiben — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 08:56:47 GMT

Link wrote:
I've noticed this happen when the manufacturer's drivers are installed.

i have the manufacturer's drivers uninstalled (they actually made the functionality i needed in archiCAD worse).

also: because we have three brands of mice in use in the office, and this happens to everybody, i suspect that this is more of a graphisoft problem than a mouse problem . . .

(thanks for chiming in though, the more people coming forward with this, the better . . .)

~/archiben

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

Djordje — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:08:24 GMT

Link wrote:
I've noticed this happen when the manufacturer's drivers are installed. Uninstalling the drivers usually fixes it for me. Trouble is - you don't get the same functionality out of your mouse. I'm not saying this is the cure-all, but it definitely will cure some cases.

Nope, system drivers ... so how more basic can you get?

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

Link — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 03:28:14 GMT

Nope, system drivers ... so how more basic can you get?

Binary?

Must be a different problem. Good luck with all that!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

rgarand — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:57:20 GMT

Same problem here.

I am running Windows XP Pro
ArchiCAD 8.1 build 2275
Microsoft Wireless Intellimouse Explorer
happens only when zooming with the scroll wheel
happens quite often when zooming...yet not everytime I zoom with the scroll wheel.

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:31:37 GMT

I have had the same problem occasionally (though not often) but I get it with the scroll bars and not the wheel. I have seen it on both platforms and I think I remember it starting as early as AC8.0 v1/r1.

I have been using Kensington mice with no special drivers (I like the system defaults best anyway) on both my PC & Mac with no problems.

When it has happened to me, Command/Control+[ (previous view) takes me right back to where I was.

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:56:10 GMT

Did anybody ever find a good way to fix this problem? I have several users that experience the problem, and one whose floor plan shoots off into outer space even when he's moving slow and trying let the screen fully redraw before the next zoom/pan.

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

James Murray — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:08:32 GMT

FWIW, I've noticed less of this in 10 so far. Not a fix, exactly...

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

Anonymous — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:39:20 GMT

The guy that was having the most trouble with it says that he Teamworked the project and it's much, much better. Huh!? How does that relate?

Next up: How saving to a PLA with True Line Weight turned on will give your project the ability to do 5 levels of depth in your elevations!

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

Link — Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:41:58 GMT

Next up: How saving to a PLA with True Line Weight turned on will give your project the ability to do 5 levels of depth in your elevations!

Okay - I'll bite mate, what have you found?!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 07:21:33 GMT

Jay wrote:
Did anybody ever find a good way to fix this problem?

I've just gotten quick at hitting the previous view shortcut.

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

__archiben — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:20:09 GMT

Jay wrote:
The guy that was having the most trouble with it says that he Teamworked the project and it's much, much better. Huh!? How does that relate?

is he showing only his workspace? i always had a feeling it was something to do with the 2D/screen redraw data being saved to cache at the same time as you issuing a 2D navigation command. most often it occurs directly or soon after loading a project - archicad has not yet had the time to write out all of the temporary files concerning 2D display. it is also most obvious when you issue a pan command right after zooming . . . my guess is that the smaller the file, the less you would experience this kind of behaviour. annoying. and on a heavier note ( ), totally ignored by GS despite the hassle i had given them about it at the time.

Next up: How saving to a PLA with True Line Weight turned on will give your project the ability to do 5 levels of depth in your elevations!

i'm not biting . . .

~/archiben

Re: zooming and panning: jumps to blank areas of the plan

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:41:22 GMT

Link wrote:
Okay - I'll bite mate, what have you found?!

Gotcha!

All I've found is that, in ArchiCAD, sometimes the solution is stranger than the problem. About 4 months ago we had a project in which a floor slab was causing the the elevations to skip some of the shadowing. Delete the slab and, presto! all the shadows work. It's like clicking the button on my blue pen so my black pen will start writing again. Makes you say, "WTH?"