topic Re: opaque fill in the section cut? in Modeling

opaque fill in the section cut?

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 13:10:58 GMT

How about this one? The section marker is transparent...I'd like them to be opaque, so I don't see my decking pattern. Pls note the window markers ARE opaque, so other settings are in order. Is there a way of making the section marker background opaque?
Thanks..!

Re: opaque fill in the section cut?

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:05:02 GMT

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Re: opaque fill in the section cut?

TomWaltz — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:28:16 GMT

I don't believe there is one in the section object, but if you don't mind learning a little GDL you could probably add it yourself.

Re: opaque fill in the section cut?

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:54:54 GMT

good idea, but no time today (kind of a mantra, really)...how about a solid filled polygon or circle? Seems like AC can't do that. But I must be wrong. Most of the time I am wrong, and am delighted. Like when I hear the fire trucks racing somewhere and I'm at work and I'm sure they're going to my house. Well, so far, always wrong on that. BUT how about a solid fill polygon or circle?

Re: opaque fill in the section cut?

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:07:50 GMT

I am working in 10 , and I am finding myself wanting to have detail markers (Marker Object 10) so that it has an OPAQUE background. I can of course create a fill and place it at the right display level, etc. But then you can't group the fill with the marker, which makes it less useful. Is there a better solution?

Re: opaque fill in the section cut?

David Maudlin — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:02:47 GMT

Burginger wrote:
I am working in 10 , and I am finding myself wanting to have detail markers (Marker Object 10) so that it has an OPAQUE background. I can of course create a fill and place it at the right display level, etc. But then you can't group the fill with the marker, which makes it less useful. Is there a better solution?

Burginger:

This is what I discovered. If you open the library part and look in the main window, there is a parameter variable AC_MarkerFill named "Marker Fill". If you click on the "X" on the left side (this will unhide the parameter) and save the part (or better, Save As under a new name), a new parameter called Marker Fill will show up under the marker's parameters. This parameter has a default value of 0 (no fill), but now you will be able to set it to another fill (Empty Fill should work). This will give the marker symbol a background fill.

HTH

David

Re: opaque fill in the section cut?

David Maudlin — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:06:43 GMT

Burginger wrote:
I am working in 10 , and I am finding myself wanting to have detail markers (Marker Object 10) so that it has an OPAQUE background. I can of course create a fill and place it at the right display level, etc. But then you can't group the fill with the marker, which makes it less useful. Is there a better solution?

Re: opaque fill in the section cut?

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:01:38 GMT

David, I too have found this parameter on my doors and windows, but it does not exist on the:

Detail Indicator NCS 10
Detail Part Marker NCS 10
Standard Detail Marker 10
Marker Object 10

Does anyone know of a marker object (3rd party) which solves all of the possible marker options?

Re: opaque fill in the section cut?

David Maudlin — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 18:22:28 GMT

Burginger wrote:
David, I too have found this parameter on my doors and windows, but it does not exist on the:

Detail Indicator NCS 10
Detail Part Marker NCS 10
Standard Detail Marker 10
Marker Object 10

Burginger:

It does exist, you just have to unhide it.
1. Select the Marker Object 10 and go to File>GDL Objects>Open Object...
2. In the main library part window, scroll down to AC_MarkerFill (see image below).
3. Click on the "X" on the left side, this will change this parameter from hidden to show.
4. Save the library part, or Save As... to preserve the original part.
5. Go the the parameters for the Marker Object 10 you saved and you will now see a parameter for "Marker Fill" (see image below).
6. Change this fill from Missing to another fill, such as Empty.

Sorry about the double post above, can the moderator delete one of these?

David

Re: opaque fill in the section cut?

Anonymous — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 00:39:44 GMT

David, thank you for that bit of information. Why couldn't this just be set up that way in the first place? As always, when a user is in need of useful information, an Archi-Talk member like David is there to show the correct path.

Thanks again.

Re: opaque fill in the section cut?

LiHigh — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 01:33:51 GMT

David,

As far as INT Library is concerned, I don't think unhiding AC_MarkerFill would works.

Here is part of the 2D script extracted from "Marker Head" (macro) which is used in Standard Detail Maker 10. Clearly, even AC_MarkerFill is set to Solid Fill, we won't be able change Fill Pen color.

If gs_marker_shape_m<>"9" Then
drawindex 20
mask=1+2+4
pen gs_cont_pen
if AC_MarkerFill<>0 then fill AC_MarkerFill
fpn=2
bpn=91
If gs_marker_shape_m="1" Then
If abs(gs_ext_angle-90)<eps or abs(gs_ext_angle-270)<eps Then
AC_MarkerOffset_X=0
If abs(gs_ext_angle-90)<eps Then AC_MarkerOffset_Y=AC_MarkerSize/2 Else AC_MarkerOffset_Y=-AC_MarkerSize/2
Else
If abs(gs_ext_angle-180)<eps Then AC_MarkerOffset_X=-AC_MarkerSize/2 Else AC_MarkerOffset_X=AC_MarkerSize/2
AC_MarkerOffset_Y=0
EndIf

add2 AC_MarkerOffset_X,AC_MarkerOffset_Y
rot2 gs_marker_rotation

poly2_b 2, mask, fpn, bpn,
0,0,901,
AC_MarkerSize/2,360,4001

pen gs_div_pen
line2 -AC_MarkerSize/2,0,AC_MarkerSize/2,0
del 2

Re: opaque fill in the section cut?

Anonymous — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 03:56:38 GMT

That is what I am finding too. Screen shot attached. You can toggle on the fill, set it to solid, but then you can't specify a white pen.

At this point I am still looking for a solution to something that should be a standard.

Re: opaque fill in the section cut?

David Maudlin — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 06:56:26 GMT

LiHigh wrote:
David,

As far as INT Library is concerned, I don't think unhiding AC_MarkerFill would works.

Here is part of the 2D script extracted from "Marker Head" (macro) which is used in Standard Detail Maker 10. Clearly, even AC_MarkerFill is set to Solid Fill, we won't be able change Fill Pen color.

...
if AC_MarkerFill<>0 then fill AC_MarkerFill
fpn=2
bpn=91
...

...
poly2_b 2, mask, fpn, bpn,
0,0,901,
AC_MarkerSize/2,360,4001
...

LiHigh:

You are correct, the pens for the foreground and background of the fill have been hard coded (not parametric). What I am recommending is setting the fill type to Empty Fill, not Solid Fill, as the Solid Fill will use the foreground pen (# 2 in the code above, fpn), while the Empty Fill will use the background pen (# 91 in the code above, bpn). Pen 91 has been the default white pen in ArchiCAD until version 10 introduced optional pen sets. If you set your pen # 91 to white, and your fill to Empty Fill, then the marker should have a white opaque mask.

David

Re: opaque fill in the section cut?

David Maudlin — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 07:10:21 GMT

Burginger wrote:
That is what I am finding too. Screen shot attached. You can toggle on the fill, set it to solid, but then you can't specify a white pen.

Mark:

Don't set the fill to Solid, set it to Empty (just as you could use an Empty Fill with a white background pen to mask an element). Since the background pen of the fill in the Marker has been set to pen #91, just make sure that pen #91 in you pen set is set to white (until version 10, pen #91 has been the white pen by default, it is probably best to leave it white for compatibility with earlier library parts).

David

Re: opaque fill in the section cut?

Anonymous — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 07:18:35 GMT

Thanks, that does work once I checked the Model View Options to "by element".

Hopefully this thread helps someone else.

Re: opaque fill in the section cut?

David Maudlin — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:57:38 GMT

Burginger wrote:
Thanks, that does work once I checked the Model View Options to "by element".

Mark:

Good catch, I don't know that that setting would have occurred to me to get this to work.

David