topic Re: In A/C 10 in Modeling

In A/C 10

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:14:44 GMT

Can't find the classic 3d navigation pallette. It is not where the book says it should be
Also I have no classic alt click verification sound, does anyone know how to turn it on?

Thank you

jp

Re: In A/C 10

Thomas Holm — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:34:13 GMT

Check your workspace settings.

Re: In A/C 10

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:53:30 GMT

Thomas wrote:
Check your workspace settings.

Thanks, found it in user preference schemes/more options

Still can't find the old 3d navigation pallette, the one with "editing-motion" "motion mode" view cone angle slide bar, put camera in path, etc.

Re: In A/C 10

Link — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 05:19:20 GMT

Still can't find the old 3d navigation pallette,

Try Window > Toolbars > Classic 3D Navigation.

It's there in the standard profile, although I can't see why you'd want to go back to that awful method!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: In A/C 10

Steve Jepson — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 05:20:08 GMT

Windows-Toolbars, is how you get to it now.

Re: In A/C 10

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:53:01 GMT

I believe the perspective slide cone is no longer with us??
(Except on navigator preview)

Re: In A/C 10

Link — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:03:03 GMT

I believe the perspective slide cone is no longer with us??
(Except on navigator preview)

It certainly looks that way.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: In A/C 10

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:07:38 GMT

Is it me, or is the new 3D navigation system completely counter-intuitive? I've been playing with it for about 1/2 hour, and just can't figure out how to do a smooth walk-through. Am I missing something, or is using arrow keys and page keys to try to walk through the building just a horrible idea?

Re: In A/C 10

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:29:47 GMT

Jay wrote:
Is it me, or is the new 3D navigation system completely counter-intuitive? I've been playing with it for about 1/2 hour, and just can't figure out how to do a smooth walk-through. Am I missing something, or is using arrow keys and page keys to try to walk through the building just a horrible idea?

The walk through feature is a bit clunky due to the lack of a physics model. It would also be nice to be able to change the navigation keys, etc. I don't use it much.

On the other hand, the new orbit method is great. I find it MUCH easier to navigate, and even complete neophytes (including a client) have found it instantly understandable.

Re: In A/C 10

Dwight — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:01:55 GMT

The arrow key method lacks a simple "turning" direction, instead relegated to mouse movement.

Most ArchiCAD users have their mouse in high gear and high accelleration for fast screen movements. This setting is incompatible with smooth steering during a walkthru.

I cope by using two different mouses (?!). One has a low gear/slow set up.

This approach is also appropriate when navigating in Maxonform, where things spins out of control if the mouse is too sensitive.

Re: In A/C 10

Ignacio Azpiazu — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:10:18 GMT

Jay wrote:
Am I missing something, or is using arrow keys and page keys to try to walk through the building just a horrible idea?

Arrows or W-S/A-D control forward-back/sides motion, and the mouse controls rotation on z (rotate to the sides) and x (look up on down) axis (in a walkthru you are moving level, so by 'rotating' up or down you look up or down -and you would go for fly mode if you wanted otherwise). It's sort of standard gaming control. So you need one hand on the keyboard, one on the mouse.

Try first moving car-like, moving forward (w) and backing up (s) only while turning with the mouse, and standing and panning every now and then. Once you are comfortable with that you can improve your sidesteps, like when you want to pop up on a window and shoot the bad guy. [Don't know what they were thinking when they didn't put the jump, crouch, prone, and crawl controls.]

Because the walk is not gravity-sensitive, you will need Space and C for elevators and stairs. Optional gravity could be cool for AC 11.

Re: In A/C 10

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:30:28 GMT

Dwight wrote:
I cope by using two different mouses (?!).

I believe that is "meeses" (as in Warner Bros. not Ed).

Re: In A/C 10

Dwight — Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:41:26 GMT

And I hate it when they break into two pieces.

Re: In A/C 10

Gerald Hoffman — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:45:45 GMT

Both of you guys obviously have too much time on your hands.

Re: In A/C 10

Dwight — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:55:13 GMT

Gerald:

What you see between Matthew and me is merely exhausting the "wastegate" of turbocharged minds.

In a turbocharged engine, if the turbo didn't have a wastegate to shunt overheated air, it could never turn off and would explode.

Boom.

Re: In A/C 10

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:37:46 GMT

Dwight wrote:
Gerald:

What you see between Matthew and me is merely exhausting the "wastegate" of turbocharged minds.

In a turbocharged engine, if the turbo didn't have a wastegate to shunt overheated air, it could never turn off and would explode.

Boom.

Nah, I'm just using my ArchiBOT to generate automated responses.

Re: In A/C 10

TomWaltz — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:44:26 GMT

I thought you were just in a "Post Count" fight.

Re: In A/C 10

Dwight — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:47:56 GMT

Matthew wrote:
:

Nah, I'm just using my ArchiBOT to generate automated responses.

My point, exactly.

Re: In A/C 10

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:11:26 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
I thought you were just in a "Post Count" fight.

You mean stacking up the one-liners?

Re: In A/C 10

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:12:17 GMT

Matthew wrote:
TomWaltz wrote:
I thought you were just in a "Post Count" fight.
You mean stacking up the one-liners?

Nah, we'd never do that.