topic Re: Zoomed Out Too Much in Modeling

Zoomed Out Too Much

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 13:03:35 GMT

I know this has been covered before, but for the life of me, I can't find the threads, so my apologies for the repeat.

Somehow my model has gotten so that when I click on "Fit in Window", it zooms out so far that the whole model is only a fraction of an inch long in the window. Even if I zoom out further and try to select everything in the view, only the model elements I can already account for get selected.

How do I fix this?

TIA.

Wendy

Re: Zoomed Out Too Much

Aussie John — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:00:40 GMT

There is some rouge item lurking a great distance from the project. If you choose the arrow tool and then command A to select all you probably will see a selection dot in a corner. Zoom to that and see if you are able to delete it.

Re: Zoomed Out Too Much

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:35:57 GMT

Thanks, John, but as I said, that isn't turning up anything, alas - at least not that my aging eyes can detect.

Wendy

Re: Zoomed Out Too Much

Anonymous — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:59:41 GMT

It is possible that some element is pretending to be much larger than it really is but without placing hotspots )or even anything visible) out at the extremities. Without going into the details about why this is, you can check by doing the old "binary search".

Turn on your half the model on and half off and see if the problem occurs. Then reverse the settings and see if it happens with the other half. If it only occurs in one half and not the other repeat the process until you've narrowed down to the problem element. You can do this with layers and/or the marquee tool.

Of course this isn't any help if the problem is not related to any elements and will be trickier if there are several problem parts, but it is the easies thing to start with.

Re: Zoomed Out Too Much

Link — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:46:31 GMT

Wendy, try hitting Ctrl+A while in the arrow tool. Look for anything that becomes selected. You may have to 'Zoom to Selection' (Ctrl+Shift+').

I've seen this happen a lot with imported files, often where the fill handle is miles away from the fill. Also when the elements are a long way from the project origin, where other elements are.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Zoomed Out Too Much

__archiben — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 23:23:58 GMT

had this happen to a colleague in a sect/elev window last week. there was nothing that we could find causing the excessive zoom. no hidden hotspots, no large radial dimensions, no floating fill handles, etc. no object hotspots a long way from project zero.

only way we could resolve it was deleting the sect/elev and create a new one. luckily the model was still quite basic . . .

Link wrote:
I've seen this happen a lot with imported files, often where the fill handle is miles away from the fill.

i've heard that this can lead to people experiencing 'empty' detail windows . . .

~/archiben

Re: Zoomed Out Too Much

Anonymous — Sat, 21 Oct 2006 04:34:20 GMT

I have had the same problem and could not find any "remote" element. This has only occured since I have had AC 10

Don Lee
AC10 987
2-1.8 G5 OS 10.4.7

Re: Zoomed Out Too Much

Rod Jurich — Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:24:38 GMT

Wendy wrote:
Somehow my model has gotten so that when I click on "Fit in Window", /......... only the model elements I can already account for get selected.

How do I fix this?

Wendy, your last edit. Was it a roof? Sometimes editing an adjacent roof plane will throw up an almost infinite (distance) node off screen. If it was a roof plane, then I'd suggest selecting some, not all to view in 3D window. You will then narrow down your search. That is if it is a roof plane.

Re: Zoomed Out Too Much

Anonymous — Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:44:21 GMT

Matthew wrote:
It is possible that some element is pretending to be much larger than it really is but without placing hotspots )or even anything visible) out at the extremities.

Thanks, Matt; that's what it turned out to be. I found it yesterday, entirely by chance. It was an elevation in the middle of the drawing whose extents had somehow gotten monstrously long. As soon as I deleted it, the problem went away.

I'm still really puzzled about why it didn't show up when I did a ctrl-A, though. The length of the line was *very* prominent when selected directly.

Without going into the details about why this is, you can check by doing the old "binary search".

Turn on your half the model on and half off and see if the problem occurs. Then reverse the settings and see if it happens with the other half.

I'll keep that in mind for the next time I run into this. Thanks.

Wendy

Re: Zoomed Out Too Much

Anonymous — Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:46:58 GMT

Rod wrote:
Wendy, your last edit. Was it a roof? Sometimes editing an adjacent roof plane will throw up an almost infinite (distance) node off screen. If it was a roof plane, then I'd suggest selecting some, not all to view in 3D window. You will then narrow down your search. That is if it is a roof plane.

Got me, Rod. I tried to fix it for too long before I posted the question here. I don't even usually remember what my last move was two seconds after I did it anyways <g>.

You would still think that a ctrl-A would find it, though, no matter what it is, especially with all layers turned on.

Wendy

Re: Zoomed Out Too Much

Anonymous — Sat, 03 Feb 2007 05:44:00 GMT

I'm getting a similar, bizarre behavior in section/elevation windows. In my detail .PLN's, formerly of and working fine in AC9, MOST (but not all) windows zoom to near the Andromeda galaxy when I Fit In Window.

I deleted piece by piece the details, but nothing seemed responsible. I deleted everything and typed in a letter A, and it still did it! I tried dragging my all-selected detail (a small modular box with the detail in it) to the Origin in the S/E window, and it zoomed in a bit more! I dragged the detail to the opposite side of the window, and it zoomed in close to right! One more drag and it zoomed in all the way.

So what's THAT craziness all about? I'm hoping not to have to go through a couple hundred details with this arduous method of correcting. And I NEED the details to be in the center of the window, because we publish each detail .PLN to a single PDF, then print out four pages of the PDF per sheet to create an updated binder of all current details.

Re: Zoomed Out Too Much

Anonymous — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:03:20 GMT

This bug just happened on a project of mine. I used the layers to narrow it down to the offending element. It turned out to be a GDL object in the standard library called "Drain pipe 10" in the mechanical section.

Upon experimenting with it I found that changing the fall of the drain to anything except zero degrees caused the whole plan view to zoom out as described. There are no distant hotspots or anything else to identify the problem. Even more weird is that if I switch off the pipe unions, the problem goes away.

This is clearly a bug in the GDL code. I wonder how many other objects are affected?