topic Re: :!: update in separate Archicad in Modeling

:!: update in separate Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 07:53:26 GMT

Each time I update an external drawing in layout ,opens concrete file.

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:19:04 GMT

You'll need to explain a bit more and include a screen shot if possible...

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:32:11 GMT

I have placed in Layout, views from other Archicad. Each time I update, opens also the other Archicad in order to read it. so that is slowed down the all process.

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:44:14 GMT

screen shot

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:46:32 GMT

How did you place the drawing?

The way I'd do it is as follows -

Procedure:

File
External Content
Place External Drawing
- locate drawing to be placed on sheet in explorer/finder
- ArchCAD will show a navigator with all the defined viewsets(if any) of the chosen file
Select Drawing
Place drawing on sheet.

Is the drawing you're placing from an ArchiCAD file?

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:54:24 GMT

I placed the Archicad drawings exactly in same way, but when I want to update this for any reason I don’t want to re-open the other Archicad.

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:15:35 GMT

Isn't it easier to copy and paste the drawing in?

I've tried placing a drawing and updating without it opening the source file but can't get it to work either. I'm not sure you can update the drawing without breaking the link to the source file.

Alternatively you could try creating a module file of the drawing which would be smaller than the source file and quicker to open and update as required.

A bit of background as to what you're trying to do might help as well...

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:41:04 GMT

I have to make a layout with views from many files. Each time that I place/update an external view, open the concrete file. There’s no other way to do this because I have to update any time that someone makes a change. In the same layout I have to place 6 or 7 different views from different files..

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:36:47 GMT

Ok, I see your problem...

I still think Modules are the way to go - create a module for each of the drawings that you need to place on the layout, then place the modules within the layout file, then create viewsets of the modules to place on the layout.

Then as the drawings change the modules can be updated to reflect the changes. This way you won't need to refer back to the source (concrete) file. If you have a team of people working on the various files, then as the changes take place they can update the modules for you and all you would need to do is update them within the layout file.

Have you used modules before?

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:49:39 GMT

Yes I think that’s a solution but it seems to me waste of time and also I think the possibility of make a mistake(forget to update) in the pressure of time. I’d prefer to find a way to stop this If it was a regulation of program.
Anyway thanks a lot for your time!

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

TomWaltz — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:31:55 GMT

Is there a reason you're creating layouts in a separate PLN from the PLN you are making the drawings in?

Yes, if you place layouts from one PLN into another, Archicad will open another session in order to update the layouts. If you want to control when this happens, you can set your views to be "Manual" updating instead of "Auto"

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:42:39 GMT

Unfortunately my project is too many MBs and I have to separate it, but helps a lot making all my layouts in one PLN.

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

TomWaltz — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:52:06 GMT

iliana wrote:
Unfortunately my project is too many MBs and I have to separate it, but helps a lot making all my layouts in one PLN.

Why do you think your project is "too many MBs?" Archicad can handle pretty large files unless your computer does not meet the system requirements.

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:06:29 GMT

I think that 52 MB is too many for Archicad even if my computer meet the system requirements.

I Apologize For my English

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

TomWaltz — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:12:14 GMT

iliana wrote:
I think that 52 MB is too many for Archicad even if my computer meet the system requirements.

I Apologize For my English

Not a problem 🙂

I have several projects 75 or more MB and Archicad handles them quite well (on 2 GHz Mac G5 machines that are about 2 to 3 years old)

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:22:52 GMT

You use Mac that’s why…..
on Xeon™ CPU 3.60Hz, 3.59GHz, 3.00GB of RAM I have a serious problem if I try to do more….

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

TomWaltz — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:42:53 GMT

A 3.59GHz, 3.00GB Xeon should outperform my 2,0 Ghz machine any day of the week and twice on sunday!

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:50:00 GMT

maybe I do something wrong.....

Re: :!: update in separate Archicad

Ignacio Azpiazu — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:55:20 GMT

iliana wrote:
maybe I do something wrong.....

[The following is true for Macs, and hopefully remains true for PCs:]

You need to have the 'model PLN' already open when you update your 'layout PLN' (that is, you need to have two sessions of ArchiCAD open). The layout will update the drawings from the session that is already open --it will not need to launch a new ArchiCAD and open the file. This works *fast*, and also feels more natural when you need to touch up both model and layouts simultaneously.

I routinely work with 3 to 5 sessions open for this very same reason, several model PLNs feeding a layout, and also module files feeding model plns, etc.

[I use the old-school method of making copies of the application, so that from the Dock I can click the 5th ArchiCAD icon to go to the layout in one move, etc., but using the more modern 'Launch in a new instance of ArchiCAD' works the same.]