topic Re: Walls - Cut Only in Modeling

Walls - Cut Only

Barry Kelly — Fri, 26 May 2023 13:03:59 GMT

Floor cut plane height is set to 1150mm.
I place a wall that is 1000 high (base at 0mm) with the floor plan display set to "Cut Only".
I can understand that I won't see this wall in the floor plan as its below the cutting plane.
But shouldn't it still show up in the 3D window and sections?
Or am I saddly mistaken?

Not that I need to do this for a practical example - I'm just trying to get my head around all the different display options.

This is V10 of course.

Barry.

Re: Walls - Cut Only

Barry Kelly — Wed, 04 Oct 2006 07:43:41 GMT

I have played around some more and have discovered they do show in section elevation - my bad on that one.

They do show in 3D if you "show all in 3D".
You can't use a marquee it seems and show just that in 3D.
Oddly enough roofs below the cut plane show fine with a marquee - just not walls and columns.
Too bad if you want to view just part of the model in a marquee.

Barry.

Re: Walls - Cut Only

Djordje — Wed, 04 Oct 2006 13:42:40 GMT

Barry wrote:
You can't use a marquee it seems and show just that in 3D.

Yes you can. THe fastest way for the mice oriented people is right click, choose "show selected/marquee in 3D"

Or hit F5.

Reading What's new, and Help, ocassionally, also helps.

Re: Walls - Cut Only

Barry Kelly — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 02:07:47 GMT

Djordje wrote:
Barry wrote:
You can't use a marquee it seems and show just that in 3D.
Yes you can. THe fastest way for the mice oriented people is right click, choose "show selected/marquee in 3D"

Or hit F5.

Reading What's new, and Help, ocassionally, also helps.

That's exactly what I am doing - F5 or right click and choose "show selected/marquee in 3D".

I've read the "what's new" and the online manual.
What they don't tell you (at least not that I saw) is that if you have the single stoey marquee then you won't see the "cut only wall if they are lower than the floor cut plane, completely in the same storey and set to show on "own storey only".
But as I just discovered if you use the all storey (fat) marquee then you will see these walls.
Why the single storey doesn't work is any one's guess.

Barry.

Re: Walls - Cut Only

Thomas Holm — Thu, 05 Oct 2006 07:17:56 GMT

Barry wrote:
What they don't tell you (at least not that I saw) is that if you have the single stoey marquee then you won't see the "cut only wall if they are lower than the floor cut plane, completely in the same storey and set to show on "own storey only".
But as I just discovered if you use the all storey (fat) marquee then you will see these walls.
Why the single storey doesn't work is any one's guess. Barry.

Logic: A wall set as you describe it won't be visible in any plan view, will it? As I interprete it, the 'single story' marquee will only show items that are visible in the current story plan view. It is similar to selecting items in the view. To show invisible items, you need to use the fat marquee and limit it to this story using the filter options.

Re: Walls - Cut Only

Barry Kelly — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 02:49:36 GMT

Thomas wrote:
Barry wrote:
What they don't tell you (at least not that I saw) is that if you have the single stoey marquee then you won't see the "cut only wall if they are lower than the floor cut plane, completely in the same storey and set to show on "own storey only".
But as I just discovered if you use the all storey (fat) marquee then you will see these walls.
Why the single storey doesn't work is any one's guess. Barry.
Logic: A wall set as you describe it won't be visible in any plan view, will it? As I interprete it, the 'single story' marquee will only show items that are visible in the current story plan view. It is similar to selecting items in the view. To show invisible items, you need to use the fat marquee and limit it to this story using the filter options.

There is some logic there in that respect if I was to select items.
But I was hoping that the marquee would show everything within its boundary for that particular storey.
But alas no.
Maybe there should be an option to show these in the single storey marque and also an option to show walls and other elements below the cut plane as a non-printable ghost image on the plan.
I think I might go make a wish.

Barry.

Re: Walls - Cut Only

Djordje — Fri, 06 Oct 2006 10:44:59 GMT

Barry wrote:
What they don't tell you (at least not that I saw) is that if you have the single stoey marquee then you won't see the "cut only wall if they are lower than the floor cut plane, completely in the same storey and set to show on "own storey only".
But as I just discovered if you use the all storey (fat) marquee then you will see these walls.
Why the single storey doesn't work is any one's guess.

Well ... now you started Ben, I am sure - this is called consistency, the Graphisoft way. Thin marquee is for the elements on a certain storey, thick for all stories, right? Right. Now then - the walls transcending stories, are not EXACTLY on a certain storey, therefore they don't show ...

BTW, IMHE, if a wall is on a storey, with the base above or at the storey level, and is lower than the cutplane, it does show in the thin marquee. If it is Cut only, you don't see what is not cut.

I might also be wrong ...