topic Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall? in Modeling

How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Anonymous — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:11:12 GMT

Hi there
I am working on archicad for 4,5 months, and I faced a problem today, and found your forum.
I would really appreciate you, if you help me to draw this kind of wall.
I attached the shape of wall here.
please answer me as soon as you can, because I have a presantation the day after tomorrow.

Your care is highly appriciated.
Thnx

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Eduardo Rolon — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:21:46 GMT

It will be a regular wall with a roof to define the point and angle at which it is cut then you can use SEO (solid element operations) with the subtraction with upward extrusion setting or the trim to roof command to subtract the shape. The roof used for the trim should be on its own layer so that it can be turned off.

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Rakela Raul — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:22:13 GMT

http://archicado.free.fr/

sorry.bad link!!! click on "archicad objects" them "techniques", there u will see your wall

fifth object - top row

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Anonymous — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:10:03 GMT

@Rakela Raul
Oh man, you made my day.
Thannnnkkkkk Youuuu...
I did what you say and now I`m really happy not only for the wall, but also for the fantastic objects I downloaded from the site u said.
If you have more references for Archicad11 objects specially landscape objects like this site (free ones I mean), please let me know.
I really need such sites for my job.
again thank you.

@ejrolon
As you see I solved my problem but I could`nt fully understand the method you said.
and also I saw this in download.archicad.com/ftp site, but again I could`nt made it.
If you can tell me in details I would really appreciate your care.
sorry for my rudeness, but please tell step by step so i can made it.
or give me a site, that will do that please.

Thanx all you man.
for everything

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Thomas Holm — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:46:47 GMT

The Archicado item is an object, and as such will not clean up with oter walls. If you want that you need to use one of the procedures ejrolon describes.
Read in the Help menu about
1) the Trim to Roof command, and about
2) Solid Element Operations (SEO)
Especially the latter is extremely useful in many situations.

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Anonymous — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:01:47 GMT

Ihave another question and that is,if i want to have different kind of material in walls what should ido..idraw a wall and the next that i want with different kind of material but it makes all similiar,it makes me mad
tnx

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Dwight — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:01:56 GMT

Help me understand the excitement.

You can easily make a wall with a sloping top in two simple ways:

1: Using a mesh
2: Using a roof element to trim a wall, thereby preserving all of the wonderful things a wall does, including supporting windows and doors.

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Rakela Raul — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:42:02 GMT

@Rakela Raul
Oh man, you made my day.
Thannnnkkkkk Youuuu...

relax !! only because you are in hurry with this simple wall....if you want to do it right....follow everybody else advise.

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:28:13 GMT

This is something that must be tested: What happens to the integrity of the model if you must use a nonexistent roof to make the wall you want. What happens if you export this combination to IFC? What is the clean way to do this?

More and more, what is expected from us is a model that IS right instead of just LOOKING right.

Anssi

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Dwight — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:32:35 GMT

Fair enough question, and one that affects any subtractive process in Archicad.

What about any SEO operation where an operator is extra to the model?

Does anyone have the answer?

PS: How far are you away from where they have the wife-carrying contest?

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:41:09 GMT

Dwight wrote:
PS: How far are you away from where they have the wife-carrying contest?

About 600 kilometers, I think.

Anssi

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:55:52 GMT

Dwight wrote:
Fair enough question, and one that affects any subtractive process in Archicad.

What about any SEO operation where an operator is extra to the model?

Does anyone have the answer?

SEOs sometimes (but not always) export as "IfcOpening" (or something like that - ArchiCAD & Revit are both busy right now saving and importing IFC files, so I can't check it). It seems to work both ways. That is Revit wall to roof relations do the same thing.

In both cases they produce big ugly blocks that can be easily deleted (since they are so big and ugly) without any apparent ill effects.

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Rakela Raul — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:05:24 GMT

in other words, we still dont have the right tools !!!!!

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:06:33 GMT

Rakela wrote:
in other words, we still dont have the right tools !!!!!

????

Exchanging building model data used to be impossible, then became difficult. It still needs improvement but works acceptably for most purposes. The tools work, and new improved models are (always) just around the corner.

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Dwight — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:17:45 GMT

He wants a sloping wall.

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

TomWaltz — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:29:32 GMT

Rakela wrote:
in other words, we still dont have the right tools !!!!!

3 different ways to do something is not enough?

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Rakela Raul — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:39:54 GMT

3 different ways to do something is not enough?

hey Tom, hope you doing super, good for you... bad for us, dont see you that often around here anymore.

4 ways: you didnt count the 'cover fill' !!

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:03:58 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
Rakela wrote:
in other words, we still dont have the right tools !!!!!
3 different ways to do something is not enough?

It would be nice to have an easier way to contour the top of a wall without having to make and hide extra parts. Especially curved ones (like landscape walls and some stair enclosures) since we still don't have proper curved roofs (or slabs).

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Dwight — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:16:21 GMT

I"m not saying where this comes from because if i did, it could mean trouble.

Re: How to Draw This Kind of Wall?

Rakela Raul — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:19:24 GMT

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wow mister !!!! from Revit 12 !!