topic zone tool options in Modeling

zone tool options

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:36:26 GMT

I would love to be able to use the zone tool to provide the length and width of the room I place it in. I think this would be very helpful during the design development stage so that when room sizes change in the model, the length and width automatically changes with it.

Re: zone tool options

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:04:03 GMT

Many of us share your desire. Alas we lack access to the internal parameters that would make automatic dimensions possible. Some of us have added dynamic hotspots for a semi-automatic version (really more of a manual assist) but they involve stretching nodes to fit the room, which then must be adjusted when the room changes. Hopefully GS will give us what we need to do this some time.

Re: zone tool options

TomWaltz — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:28:25 GMT

It's a tricky topic because you have to consider L-shaped rooms or curved rooms. You might not always want just the X-length and Y-length.

Re: zone tool options

Djordje — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:49:07 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
It's a tricky topic because you have to consider L-shaped rooms or curved rooms. You might not always want just the X-length and Y-length.

My feelings exactly.

Area is what is the room sold by ... and dimensions say X Y and whatever is in between

Re: zone tool options

Rakela Raul — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:28:36 GMT

do a search:
there is a zone (by a good samaritan) that gives X and Y dims

Re: zone tool options

Anonymous — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:31:49 GMT

Djordje wrote:
TomWaltz wrote:
It's a tricky topic because you have to consider L-shaped rooms or curved rooms. You might not always want just the X-length and Y-length.
My feelings exactly.

Area is what is the room sold by ... and dimensions say X Y and whatever is in between

All true, but I still find that clients want to see the room dimensions before they ask about area.

Re: zone tool options

Anonymous — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:10:57 GMT

Chris wrote:
Djordje wrote:
TomWaltz wrote:
It's a tricky topic because you have to consider L-shaped rooms or curved rooms. You might not always want just the X-length and Y-length.
My feelings exactly.

Area is what is the room sold by ... and dimensions say X Y and whatever is in between
All true, but I still find that clients want to see the room dimensions before they ask about area.

I agree that, despite it's limitations, a function like this would be very handy in schematic phase.

Re: zone tool options

Anonymous — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:28:30 GMT

Rakela wrote:
do a search:
there is a zone (by a good samaritan) that gives X and Y dims

I'm kind of new to this forum so I really do not know how to find this info! Your help would be appreciated

Re: zone tool options

Anonymous — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:31:51 GMT

I understand the concerns about odd shaped rooms but more than anything it starts a relationship that can continue on with the changes that are made throughout the design process. It's our job to explain to the client where the measurements are derived from.

Matthew wrote:
Chris wrote:
Djordje wrote:
My feelings exactly.

Area is what is the room sold by ... and dimensions say X Y and whatever is in between
All true, but I still find that clients want to see the room dimensions before they ask about area.
I agree that, despite it's limitations, a function like this would be very handy in schematic phase.

Re: zone tool options

Anonymous — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:03:13 GMT

Hey Djordje,

Is it possible to move this over to the wish list?

Implementation would require no more than for GS to make available a global variable array that identifies the corners of the zone. This would allow GDL programmers to build the function into their zone stamps. I suspect that some enterprising folks might come up with even more clever ideas once this were available.

Re: zone tool options

Djordje — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:40:59 GMT

Matthew wrote:
Is it possible to move this over to the wish list?

Already there.

I would ask the author of the zone stamp that does show the sizes of the room to place it in the Depository, if possible?

Re: zone tool options

Djordje — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 07:03:55 GMT

On the same topic ...

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=46704#46704

The author is Jay Rennemeyer. Jay, can you please post it in the Depository?

Danny K has a different idea:

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=43031#43031

A replacement object:

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=46305#46305

And as for the wishes, it is wished for here:

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=857

Re: zone tool options

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Dec 2007 23:12:34 GMT

Djordje wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Is it possible to move this over to the wish list?
Already there.

I would ask the author of the zone stamp that does show the sizes of the room to place it in the Depository, if possible?

I've got one. I'll see if I can find time to vet it for general release.