topic !Restored: ¿News about AC 12? in Modeling

!Restored: ¿News about AC 12?

Anonymous — Fri, 09 May 2008 07:47:22 GMT

Hi all!

¿Anybody knows anything about AC 12, please?

I'm hearing rumours, but nothing concrete...

Thanks a lot and regards.

P.S. Like another user says: "forgive my spanglish..."

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Barry Kelly — Fri, 09 May 2008 08:43:59 GMT

el.antuan wrote:
Hi all!

¿Anybody knows anything about AC 12, please?

I'm hearing rumours, but nothing concrete...

Thanks a lot and regards.

P.S. Like another user says: "forgive my spanglish..."

Rumours are all you will get untill the official release is announced (hopefully some time soon - late May/June).

Care to share any rumours you have heard?

Barry.

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Dwight — Fri, 09 May 2008 09:32:48 GMT

Barry wrote:
el.antuan wrote:
Hi all!

¿Anybody knows anything about AC 12, please?

I'm hearing rumours, but nothing concrete...

Thanks a lot and regards.

P.S. Like another user says: "forgive my spanglish..."
Rumours are all you will get untill the official release is announced (hopefully some time soon - late May/June).

Care to share any rumours you have heard?

Barry.

Better yet, make some of your own up. They will have the same veracity as the others.

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Anonymous — Fri, 09 May 2008 12:36:35 GMT

I have found something on the blog in France.

http://atila-diffusion.eu/news/index.php?2008/05/07/111-archicad-12-coming-soon

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Anonymous — Fri, 09 May 2008 16:00:44 GMT

Barry wrote:
el.antuan wrote:
Hi all!

¿Anybody knows anything about AC 12, please?

I'm hearing rumours, but nothing concrete...

Thanks a lot and regards.

P.S. Like another user says: "forgive my spanglish..."
Rumours are all you will get untill the official release is announced (hopefully some time soon - late May/June).

Care to share any rumours you have heard?

Barry.

Hi barry!

Sure I can share it!

Here it is, but I think it's a fake: arquinauta.com/foros: ¿Archicad 12?

Regards!

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Laura Yanoviak — Fri, 09 May 2008 16:19:19 GMT

AC12 will be announced at next week's GS User Roundtable on May 8th (it's on the agenda, anyway).

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Dennis Lee — Fri, 09 May 2008 16:50:41 GMT

Dwight wrote:
Better yet, make some of your own up. They will have the same veracity as the others.

Ok, here it goes: I heard (replace w/ hope to be exact) that -
1) the lightworks engine now includes global illumination and final gather - plus the ability to work w/ the all the LWA materials.
2) there is a dedicated tool for creating generic 3d forms & shapes w/ all the typical 3d tools available in modern day 3d modelers, and the ability to set what its function would be (wall, roof, slab, etc...)
3) worksheet tool is like any section elevation tool - it can be a live view of the plan or section/ elevation with the option to make it a "drawing", as opposed to the detail tool which is strictly 2d.
4) OpenGL is improved to match all the abilities of sketchup with realtime shadows, and no "dark side of the moon" effects.
5) grid tool works flawlessly - create / delete only in the plan, and able to adjust visibility, size, etc. in each view separately...
6) it's possible to copy paste detail views from other projects - which would bring in the corresponding detail viewpoint, and its contents with the view settings to the new project.
7) archiglazing is included
8 ) archistair is included
9) and last but not the least, there would be a secret bonus feature that will make every revit user drool with envy

maybe I'm a little bit too optimistic...?

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Dwight — Fri, 09 May 2008 17:00:21 GMT

RE : Item #9:

And if you want another absurd fantasy, Archicad 12 will appear as a centerfold in July's PlayCAD magazine.

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Anonymous — Fri, 09 May 2008 17:11:20 GMT

Hey, Dwight give him a break. It is an awesome wish list.

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Anonymous — Fri, 09 May 2008 17:42:44 GMT

Hi Dwight!

Dwight wrote:
RE : Item #9:

And if you want another absurd fantasy...

¿Why "absurd fantasy"? ¿Isn't possible?

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Dwight — Fri, 09 May 2008 17:52:11 GMT

Isn't possible that… what?

That Archicad would produce something new that Revit users would envy?

or what?

Your turn.

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Anonymous — Fri, 09 May 2008 18:16:45 GMT

Yes, my turn.

I don't mind if the revit users are green of envy or not. I only want to make the most of AC. ¿With a new version? Yes.

Or: Do we expect Autodesk's Revit tell us what we need to do and where we go?

I remember that Graphisoft has spent years using BIM to know what chances has this way of working... ¿Or not?

Kind regards.

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Thomas Holm — Fri, 09 May 2008 19:07:47 GMT

Dwight wrote:
RE : Item #9:

I have to contradict! This is the only feature that I'm sure is included

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Anonymous — Fri, 09 May 2008 19:44:02 GMT

Dwight wrote:
.... Archicad 12 will appear as a centerfold in July's PlayCAD magazine.

Dwight, I'm absolutely fed up with you spreading all these lies and dis-information...
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I heard it's the August edition of PlayCAD actually!!!

If you're interested in possible features in AC12, don't forget the legendary press release that managed to confuse more than inform - here

(Discussed here.)

Something to do with semantic webs, OWLS, SWOPS, GARMS, SPLODGES, TWONGLES, POGS, FLOPS, SNOGS and FLOBITS* or something.

(*I made the last 6 up, btw )

I've also heard something about 'stairs' and 'elevations' being enhanced too, but to what extent, who knows?

And while we are discussing fantasy features, as I was chatting to the main man Dominic Gallello whilst giving me a lift in his Graphisoft branded biplane he personally uses to spread the word of ArchiCAD around the world, he exclusively told me they were implementing technology that allowed you to print full size 3D models directly from your standard printer without any extra attachments.

Which could be useful, I thought.

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Anonymous — Fri, 09 May 2008 21:12:34 GMT

el.antuan wrote:
Hi Dwight!

Dwight wrote:
RE : Item #9:

And if you want another absurd fantasy...
¿Why "absurd fantasy"? ¿Isn't possible?

Not absurd. Not only possible...

It's called the marquee tool or...

Find & Select or...

Pet Palette or...

Info Box or...

3D snaps, constraints, etc.

Of course there are many more but not necessarily all drool worthy.

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Dwight — Fri, 09 May 2008 21:47:13 GMT

All i know is that with Autodesk behind Revit, my throat is dry.

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Anonymous — Fri, 09 May 2008 21:51:09 GMT

at least ArchiCAD 12 will make use of multiple processors....

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Djordje — Sat, 10 May 2008 16:53:20 GMT

Dwight wrote:
All i know is that with Autodesk behind Revit, my throat is dry.

Have another on me.

The only reason why the above might be a problem is marketing - as traditionally Graphisoft does not recognize a need for any.

And, I would REALLY like that Graphisoft stops looking at Revit and remembers that they have a software to make. The same one that Revit copied to incredible lengths, including the brochure, when it was being born. Bashing Architectural Desktop notwithstanding.

We don't need two flavours of the same unfinished bull*s*h*i*t but two distinct packages based on the same philosophy. Why? Because 90% of the world is awed whatever they see - Archicad or Revit - as they can't think further than a stack (roll, folder) of drawings and drafting them. Heck, quite a few people here can't - sorry, guys, the truth hurts. I am a moron that wants impossible, yes I know, it also hurts.

I still have to wait and see anything Autodesk working with anything else Autodesk smoothly - as they don't develop, they buy development. And coordination is not their strongest point.

So, basically ... enjoy what you use, and use it well. If you are forced to use A or R, learn how to use it. Changing the software won't teach you how to use it properly.

May the VB be with us ...

... or BIM, as you like it.

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Anonymous — Sun, 11 May 2008 20:47:29 GMT

Peter wrote:
Dwight wrote:
.... Archicad 12 will appear as a centerfold in July's PlayCAD magazine.
Dwight, I'm absolutely fed up with you spreading all these lies and dis-information...
.
.
.
.
I heard it's the August edition of PlayCAD actually!!!

If you're interested in possible features in AC12, don't forget the legendary press release that managed to confuse more than inform - here

(Discussed here.)

Something to do with semantic webs, OWLS, SWOPS, GARMS, SPLODGES, TWONGLES, POGS, FLOPS, SNOGS and FLOBITS* or something.

(*I made the last 6 up, btw )

I've also heard something about 'stairs' and 'elevations' being enhanced too, but to what extent, who knows?

And while we are discussing fantasy features, as I was chatting to the main man Dominic Gallello whilst giving me a lift in his Graphisoft branded biplane he personally uses to spread the word of ArchiCAD around the world, he exclusively told me they were implementing technology that allowed you to print full size 3D models directly from your standard printer without any extra attachments.

Which could be useful, I thought.

I heard it was only going to be a 3D hologram, projected onto the building site. 3D printing will not be implemented until V16

Re: ¿News about AC 12?

Thomas Holm — Sun, 11 May 2008 20:52:16 GMT

Peter wrote:
, as I was chatting to the main man Dominic Gallello whilst giving me a lift in his Graphisoft branded biplane he personally uses to spread the word of ArchiCAD around the world, he exclusively told me they were implementing technology that allowed you to print full size 3D models directly from your standard printer without any extra attachments.

Was he smoking?