topic Bathroom library in Modeling

Bathroom library

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 15:06:53 GMT

hi, i been having this problem ever since i started using AC. everytime i place some of the bathroom objects, there is always a pop-up box that prompt that i have place the object on a incorrect layer, and to check my layer settings. could anybody tell me how can i fix this problem.

thanks

Re: Bathroom library

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 01:48:08 GMT

Could you please tell us the exact error message you are getting.
AFAIK, there is no such thing as an "incorrect layer".
Also, could you give us your AC version and platform.
Thank you,
Peter Devlin

Re: Bathroom library

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:11:02 GMT

the same thing happened on AC 9 and 10
this is what i get -
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Re: Bathroom library

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:17:22 GMT

I have never ever seen that particular error message.
What happens when you click on "Stop" ?
Peter Devlin

Re: Bathroom library

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:24:47 GMT

rx

Do you have any add-ons that may have specific layer requirements?

It does seem odd that you'd be placing bathroom fittings on a Site Survey layer, but I have never seen a message stopping you from doing it.

Re: Bathroom library

Barry Kelly — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:38:16 GMT

rx_rotory wrote:
hi, i been having this problem ever since i started using AC. everytime i place some of the bathroom objects, there is always a pop-up box that prompt that i have place the object on a incorrect layer, and to check my layer settings. could anybody tell me how can i fix this problem.

thanks

Some of the Aussie library parts have a preferred layer which is the object checks as you are trying to place it.
I thought this was disabled in the latest library versions.

If you look in the object preferences you will hopefully see a setting for "Layer Control".
The preferred layer here needs to be set to the layer you wish to place the object in - then you will not get the error message.
There may also be a setting to allow you to place the object in the wrong layer.

If there is no setting in the parameters for this then you will need to edit the script to disable this feature.
This is probably your best option if you don't want this feature.
It should be the first few lines in the 2D script and sometimes also in the master script.

In 2D script you will see something like this you need to delete or remark out.

if GLOB_LAYER<>preflayer and layover=0 then !***** Here is where the object checks the layer that it's on *****
text2 0,0, "Wrong Layer"
end
endif

In the Master script you want to disable this.

if GLOB_LAYER<>preflayer and preflayer<>"" then !***** Here is where the object checks the layer that it's on *****
temp = REQUEST ("name_of_macro", "", name)
call wrong_layer_message PARAMETERS name=name, preflayer=preflayer
endif

It is a good feature if you want consistency across all your models.
Of course it is a real pain when you want to put different objects that need to go in different layers on your plan - but that's where favourites come in handy.
Also if you aren't worried about what goes in which layer then I can imagine it would be a pain.

The other thing is for it to be useful you need to have the same layer names as those that the library was designed for.

Barry.

Re: Bathroom library

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:42:04 GMT

Hello Stuart,
Thanks for chiming in.
I was wondering the same thing about
some third party add-on like one of the CadImage add-ons.
Have you ever seen such an error message ?
I asked the question what happens when you hit "Stop"
because it seems that one is not prevented from placing
the object but are invited to check which layer the object
is being placed on.
Peter Devlin

Re: Bathroom library

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:48:53 GMT

Hello Barry,
Thank you for posting this information.
I have never used a lib part that contained this code
or knew of the macro "wrong_layer_message" .
Good to know.
Thanks,
Peter Devlin

Re: Bathroom library

Barry Kelly — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:59:00 GMT

Peter wrote:
Hello Barry,
Thank you for posting this information.
I have never used a lib part that contained this code
or knew of the macro "wrong_layer_message" .
Good to know.
Thanks,
Peter Devlin

It is only in the "Australian Essentials" library as far as I know which is something extra that GS AUS does for us - not the default Archicad library.
I know it was a problem a few years ago (there was a post here somewhere back then) but I thought they had scripted all of this out of the latest version of the library.
Can't say for sure though as I don't use it.

The macro is simply the warning message that you saw in the screen shot.

Barry.

Re: Bathroom library

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:09:11 GMT

Hello Barry,
Thank you for this information as well.
I was puzzled by some of the library parts
and their names like "Bath Fowler Florida"???
Thanks,
Peter Devlin

Re: Bathroom library

Barry Kelly — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 03:18:48 GMT

Peter wrote:
I was puzzled by some of the library parts
and their names like "Bath Fowler Florida"???

Seems that even though us Aussies want a library that doesn't have the US (& European) objects in it, we still name ours with a US flavour.

The Aus Essential library is really just an attempt at giving us some Australianised objects to suit our products and construction methods.

Barry.

Re: Bathroom library

Anonymous — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 06:21:03 GMT

thanks barry for the insight. i've looked at it and it has the layer settings option under the parameter, but i have to set it every time i want to place the object. it is such a hassel. anyway, thank you again for your help.

cheers.

Re: Bathroom library

Barry Kelly — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 07:01:17 GMT

rx_rotory wrote:
thanks barry for the insight. i've looked at it and it has the layer settings option under the parameter, but i have to set it every time i want to place the object. it is such a hassel. anyway, thank you again for your help.

cheers.

The trick is to have the object saved in the library with the correct preferred layer already set that you want the object to go into.
Then only if you try to place the object on the wrong layer you will get the warning message.
Which is great if you have a very strick layer setup - helps to eliminate a lot of errors.

But by creating favourites of your commonly used objects you can set the preferred layer and the actual layer you want it to go in (they must be the same as each other) and you won't be presented with warning message - but you must use the favourites to place the object.
Again you need a strick layer setup for this - as soon as you try to use another layer you will get the warning.

However if it is really not important to you then you will be better off getting into the scripts and remarking out the relevant bits.

I just looked at the last AUS ESS library I had for version 10 and it seems all the objects are set as default to "Allow user to use wrong layer".
This is a parameter in the object and is set "On" as default.

I'm guessing you may be using the library from version 8.1 or 9?
They hadn't fixed the scripts in those libraries from memory.

Seems like they have also changed it so it will just displaytext of "WRONG LAYER" on the plan instead of the object and there will be no warning message.

Barry.