topic Re: Custom Fills in Modeling

Custom Fills

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:41:59 GMT

How do you create custom fills?

Re: Custom Fills

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:57:45 GMT

Olivia

This directly from the Help section: (searched for "create fills" and scroll down about half a page)

Symbol fills can be created by the user from a sketch drawn on the Floor Plan with the following steps:
1 Draw a pattern using Lines, Arcs and Hotspots. Make the pattern fit into a rectangle shape. Make sure the top, bottom, left and right sides of the pattern are in continuation with each other.

2 Select all the components of the pattern and choose Edit > Copy.

3 Choose Options > Element Attributes > Fill Types. Click the New. button, enter a name for the new fill and select the Symbol fill radio button, then click OK to set the name and type.

4 Click the Paste button above the Preview window. The captured vectorial pattern appears in the Preview window. Click OK to exit the dialog box and save changes.

Notes: You can freely edit the horizontal and vertical stroke, scale and motif size as well as the rotation angle. The bitmap pattern will need to be edited manually.

Hope it helps.

Re: Custom Fills

jbArch — Tue, 13 Mar 2007 04:18:06 GMT

There is also an article in the ArchicadWiki about creating fills. Click the link:
Creating custom fills

Cheers,
JB

Re: Custom Fills

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:30:13 GMT

I have attached an image.

First question- when you guys put attachments in there messeges do you do it through photobucket or something similar, so you can get the "img"?

My archicad question:

I am having a hell of a time trying to get a batt insulation fill to fit in a 3
1/2" wall.
(It did work for a 4 1/2" wall which i did by total mistake"

I am making my own cause archicad's is just a criss cross.

I have gotten as far as the attchement shows you, but I cannot get it to line up correctly, it is shifted so that the curved parts of the symbol are not at the top and bottom, but they are not even at any didstance that makes sense, they aren't shifted half or a quarter fo the way up. I have tried copying the pattern I want with all kinds of different shifts, I mean, cutting it in half and placing it on top of one another, etc. I know that probably makes no sense.

But, will some one look at it, you should be able to see my problem when you open the attchement.

Also, what is the purpose of the "X2" and "Y1" dimension options they give you, I changed Y1 around, and it seems to just offest half the symbol fill or something.
Can some one please help me, I have searched on here, done the wiki thing, done the archi cad help thing.....

Re: Custom Fills

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:31:25 GMT

Jesikuh123 wrote:
I have attached an image.

First question- when you guys put attachments in there messeges do you do it through photobucket or something similar, so you can get the "img"?

OH I See.

Re: Custom Fills

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:33:31 GMT

Well I don't know how to make the custom fills.

But I agree with you, a new cut fill for the Batt Insulation would be great. I'd love to get a copy if you can work it out. if not I think I'll give it a shot myself.[/img]

Re: Custom Fills

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:23:39 GMT

This is what I have so far, it is pretty close, and only for a 3 1/2" wall.
I wills end another when I get it perfect.

You will see that the top and bottm curves are still a little off.

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I guess I cannot attach that as a file, I will try to attach to a private messege

Re: Custom Fills

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:35:18 GMT

I tried creating the custom batt fill myself also. the problem is the fills don't recognize the walls path.

I also tried making a custom symbol line and using that as a seperator line in the composite wall type but you can't use symbol lines as seperator lines.

Has anybody else ever tried this with any success?

Re: Custom Fills

Link — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 03:40:40 GMT

I still can't believe GS won't let us use symbol lines in our composites. I mean what an easy fix to give us so much flexibility, for a variety of wall types.

Because cut fill origins cannot be manipulated within walls, trying to generate batt insulation in a wall is not best achieved by fills. And Because GS won't give us symbol lines in our composites, we are left with rather an ugly workaround (again).

We are lucky enough to have been supplied with an insulation library part that we can stretch over our walls. It's quite a nice little object, but it is a workaround nonetheless.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Custom Fills

Aussie John — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:59:56 GMT

Jesikuh123 wrote:

I am having a hell of a time trying to get a batt insulation fill to fit in a 3
1/2" wall.
(It did work for a 4 1/2" wall which i did by total mistake"

I am making my own cause archicad's is just a criss cross.

Be careful. I did try this once and the size of the exported DWGs were enormous. This was because the circles were rendered as small lines. Maybe things are better now.
And yes, getting things to line up was next to impossible.

Re: Custom Fills

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:33:14 GMT

Link wrote:
I still can't believe GS won't let us use symbol lines in our composites. I mean what an easy fix to give us so much flexibility, for a variety of wall types.

Because cut fill origins cannot be manipulated within walls, trying to generate batt insulation in a wall is not best achieved by fills. And Because GS won't give us symbol lines in our composites, we are left with rather an ugly workaround (again).

We are lucky enough to have been supplied with an insulation library part that we can stretch over our walls. It's quite a nice little object, but it is a workaround nonetheless.

Cheers,
Link.

Do you think this is better than using a line type and drawing over the walls in section or paln? Or now that I have made the fill, using that in my composites and that in section as a drafting fill and rotating the origin?
And Why? Does the library part have any pros?

Thanks.

And howd o you guys think we could word this "issue" to add it to the wish list?

Re: Custom Fills

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:26:02 GMT

In order to add it to the wish list I think these things would help:

1) allow symbol lines as separtor lines in wall compositions

2) Being able to create a symboline with an offset would help also. By this I mean a symbol line such as the batt insulation with a baseline to one side rather then down the center of the symbol

3) Need some kind of Custom Wall fill option that recognizes the orientation of the fill in relation to the path of the base line.

Re: Custom Fills

Link — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:50:54 GMT

Jesikuh123 wrote:
Do you think this is better than using a line type and drawing over the walls in section or paln? Or now that I have made the fill, using that in my composites and that in section as a drafting fill and rotating the origin?
And Why? Does the library part have any pros?

There's not much in it really. I just think it it would be faster to place the library part rather than fiddle with fills and origins.

Either way it's a workaround and submitting a wish wouldn't hurt, but you'd have to do that separately.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Custom Fills

Link — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:58:20 GMT

zaigram wrote:
In order to add it to the wish list I think these things would help:

1) allow symbol lines as separtor lines in wall compositions

2) Being able to create a symboline with an offset would help also. By this I mean a symbol line such as the batt insulation with a baseline to one side rather then down the center of the symbol

3) Need some kind of Custom Wall fill option that recognizes the orientation of the fill in relation to the path of the base line.

1) Yes!

2) This can be done relatively easily by centering your linetype definition around the project origin.

3) Agreed, but 1 would solve most issues AFAICS.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Custom Fills

Andy Thomson — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:02:14 GMT

Be sure to check out Olivier Dentan's insulation objects also - they are very nice. He has a rectangle that you can clip the corners of, and a variable arch, all extremely well-made objects:

http://perso.orange.fr/archilib.od/

Re: Custom Fills

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:41:00 GMT

I saw this topic now, the problem is like mine.
So theres no way to do this right

Re: Custom Fills

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:05:08 GMT

Why does fill dissaper when you drag it to the section?
I thought this way I could manualy input it in the slab by making an empty slab cut fill and then drawing it manualy, but this doesnt work also.

Re: Custom Fills

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:07:26 GMT

Anyone?
I realy dont like this issue, not having any ability of defining custom fills and using/aplying them without any problems
Is it possible that even with version 11, Graphisoft hasnt done anything abouth it

Re: Custom Fills

Link — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 06:13:16 GMT

It's just a display order setting - don't panic. Right click on it and bring it forward or to the front of the display order.

Cheers,
Link.