topic Re: Can't view model in 3D in Modeling

Can't view model in 3D

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 12:51:30 GMT

I know what you're thinking, this has been answered before...(can't view model in 3D because camera is not facing model, place a new camera, problem solved) ...but this is a little different.

I CAN see my model in Perspective mode 3D, but not in Axonometric.

I have tried viewing the entire model, viewing selected walls, I have tried thin marquees, fat marquees, fat marquees with objects selected, in OpenGL Options setting "always display all elements within the following radius:" everything from 0 to Large (although this should only effect perspective anyway, as axonometric has no viewing distance), Select All in 3D window (nothing), wireframe mode, shaded mode, Internal engine and OpenGL. I have tried preset axo modes, (Top, Side, Iso, frontal axo etc) and orbit. Zoom extents = Nothing.

Has anyone else come across this? Any tricks or settings I may have missed?

One point to consider is this model was originally built in AC9 (maybe even 8.1) but we have others similar in the office that do not do this.

Stumped.

Happy birthday to me.

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Link — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:47:31 GMT

s2art wrote:
I know what you're thinking....

s2art wrote:
Happy birthday to me.

You obviously haven't been a good boy!

Can you Ctrl+A to select anything? Is it possible you have something else a few megametres away which is making the viewable elements microscopic dots?

[I know you don't need to be told to be in the arrow tool then check the Info Box...]

I'll have a beer for you. Cheers,
Link.

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Anonymous — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:24:31 GMT

Hi Link. Hope that beer was cold. Damn it's hot (and muggy) here at the moment.

Tried CTRL-A (even Apple-A ), got nothing. Nothing selected. Nothing in Info box. Even if I select a single wall nothing shows in axo view when I zoom extents. Perspective view is fine.

AAArrrggghhh!

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Link — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:45:05 GMT

Yes beer was indeed very cold - I can almost guarantee that it was hotter and muggier here!

This must be a very frustrating problem indeed. Does it give you any kind of error report? Have you tried to copy paste any part of the model into a new project?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Anonymous — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:13:00 GMT

No error report, just absence of anything in 3D window.

3D window screenshot (perspective) attached. (Multi storey marquee used)

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Anonymous — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:13:48 GMT

3D window screenshot (axo mode and zoom extents)

EDIT- Copy and Paste into another project displays fine in axo and persp.

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Link — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:25:10 GMT

I wonder if SEO's are somehow involved. Have you tried undoing them? Nevertheless, it is definitely buggy. At least you can move it into a new project file if all else fails.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Anonymous — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:44:00 GMT

I think the original project this was copied from used roof trimming as opposed to SEO (I am slowly bringing them around here). I seriously hope I don't have to copy everything to a new file as the documentation is a long way down the track, and all the extraneous 2D info and views, as well as layouts etc would take a while to track down and merge / re-setup. Don't want to go there.

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Link — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:47:00 GMT

No, I don't blame you!

Have you tried a forward merge?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Anonymous — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:52:26 GMT

Further progress...

Pretty sure before when I selected the Selection Arrow tool, and "Select All" ( Apple-A), nothing was selected. Now things appear to be selected (189 items total, 144 walls, 3 slabs, 8 roofs etc) but zoom to selection or zoom extents have no effect. The Edit selections button is greyed out too . And looking again at the 3D projections settings dialogue, there is no "house" to indicate the model in axo views (see image). This is suggesting to me that there may be something far away (or at a very high or very low elevation) but i can't find it. And why this strange phenomena would happen even if only a single item is selected to show in 3D window, I don't know.

Curiouser and curiouser.

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:03:29 GMT

Link wrote:
No, I don't blame you!

Have you tried a forward merge?

Cheers,
Link.

Gave it a crack, but no, that didn't work.

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Link — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:53:45 GMT

Change your scale X,Y,Z Projection scale from 0,0,0 to 1,1,1!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Link — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:01:11 GMT

Or for mm it may be 1000, 1000, 1000.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:16:04 GMT

Link wrote:

Change your scale X,Y,Z Projection scale from 0,0,0 to 1,1,1!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:20:36 GMT

Hold the phone - Changed the camera azimuth to 45 in 3D proj. settings, and the model icon appeared, changed back to 0 and its still there!!!

Oh happy days.

Thanks, Link for your time and patience.

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Link — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:32:10 GMT

s2art wrote:
Hold the phone - Changed the camera azimuth to 45 in 3D proj. settings, and the model icon appeared, changed back to 0 and its still there!!!

Oh happy days.

Thanks, Link for your time and patience.

Didn't think changing the camera azimuth would matter, so it's still kinda weird, but glad you can see your model now!

Good stuff.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:37:24 GMT

Hello Stuart,
This thread might interest you as it relates to your issue.
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=102444&highlight=default+values#102444
Peter Devlin

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:46:55 GMT

Thanks for pointing that out, Peter. I had missed that conversation (must have been in my Forum "quiet period".)

Pretty much describes what was happening, but all good now.

Thanks again.

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:06:33 GMT

Hello Stuart,
When Link noticed those settings set to zero it reminded me of
the thread I referred to. When something really weird happens
to the 3D view I try to remember to switch back and forth between
the various projection settings untill the default settings get reset.
If I had noticed what Link did I would have suggested this trick.
Thanks,
Peter Devlin

Re: Can't view model in 3D

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:34:16 GMT

Hi Peter

The weird thing is I did try some of those pre-set views, to no avail. It was only after I changed the camera azimuth (which was 0, changed to 30, then it went back to 0 again) manually that I got a result, and was then able to successfully select the preset views and get them to work.

Strangeness abounds.

But happy now.