topic Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12 in Modeling

Grid options in section settings. AC12

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:48:10 GMT

Hey in 12 they removed an option in the section settings to update the grids manually. Now when we rebuild our sections the grids go wacky and we have to fix them every time we rebuild. Is there a way around this?

Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Anonymous — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:34:19 GMT

Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:25:21 GMT

Does this mean that when the Section is rebuilt the Grid Elements are not generated where they are supposed to be?
Or does it mean that you moved your Grid Elements in the Section so when you update the Section they jump back to the correct locations and you have to again move them to their custom location.
The former: I would say it is a bug.
The latter: I would say set the Grid System not to be generated in Section, instead place individual Grid Elements in the Section.

Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Erika Epstein — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:50:52 GMT

They are still not generating in sections as they should. Some show, some don't, they don't hold settings reliably. What I do is generate them in sections so I can accurately place the GRID LIBRARY PART and then turn the option to have the GRID TOOL show in section to OFF as Laszlo directed.

Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Djordje — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:52:45 GMT

jkoenig1980 wrote:
Hey in 12 they removed an option in the section settings to update the grids manually. Now when we rebuild our sections the grids go wacky and we have to fix them every time we rebuild. Is there a way around this?

Did you bring the project from 10? If yes, there is a bug that I have reported.

Remedy: select all the grid markers IN EACH SECTION, set the parameters correctly. It will behave from then onwards.

Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Anonymous — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:14:27 GMT

Let me stop and show you what im talking about.

Before Rebuild

After Rebuild
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Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:35:25 GMT

That is strange, cause I do not know what setting you have to set in the Grid Element Settings Dialog to achieve this skewed effect.
Select all Grid Elements in the Section and try setting the Staggering value to the minimum in the Section/Elevation panel of the Grid Element Settings Dialog to see if it makes any difference.

Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:14:35 GMT

I confirm that I am having similar problems with the Grid tool. Offset bubbles in sections. Random disappearing Grid lines. Locked or unchangeable settings in the Grid Tool settings window.

I am using a template file that was originally created in ArchiCAD 10 and has been updated over the years through 11 and 12. However, I have used a fresh AC12 grid object via 12 when using the Grid. SO, i dont think it is related to a previous version of archicad.

Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Erika Epstein — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:26:04 GMT

Me three.
I am also experiencing problems with the grid tool in AC11 files.
-changing the s/e setting so grids do not show in the s/e window gives erratic results. Some s/e this works, others some show. In the s/e windows selecting these often they are on the archicad layer even though the plan grid elements are on the correct GRID layer.
-some s/e markers when I change the setting crash archicad. I've sent in a number of bug reports from these occasions.
- sometimes s/e windows suddenly start showing grid tool elements after correctly not showing them.
- if I change one or two of the grid tool elements in s/e to be offset suddenly all grids show offset in that s/e window.

I've learned the hard way to not even temporarily have the grids set to show in the s/e marker settings because it seems once on you struggle, often unsuccessfully, for the remainder of the project to get them off. I routinely place library part grids in s/e window with a masking fill to block out any grid tool elements that suddenly appear and/or won't go away in s/e windows.

Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Bruce — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:22:03 GMT

Well, you've got further than me. I can't even get the Setting Dialog working!

This is all I get - anyone else encountered this? It's the same in v11 too.

Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:54:34 GMT

Bruce wrote:
Well, you've got further than me. I can't even get the Setting Dialog working!

This is all I get - anyone else encountered this? It's the same in v11 too.

hehehehe, yes man, nothing works in ac like it supouse to work . . .
if u want to see grid tool like u want folow these steps !
go to WORK ENVIROMENTS - TOOL SETINGS DIALOG BOXES - GRID ELEMENT TOOL !!!!

SELECT WHAT U WANT TO SEE !

Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:56:40 GMT

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Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:58:26 GMT

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Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:44:15 GMT

Bruce wrote:
Well, you've got further than me. I can't even get the Setting Dialog working!

This is all I get - anyone else encountered this? It's the same in v11 too.

There is a ArchiCADWiki article with further information if you need it - http://www.archicadwiki.com/TechNotes/Grid%20Tool%20Panel%20Visibility

Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Bruce — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:01:07 GMT

That's fantastic! Why didn't I think of that?

The bizarre thing is, it was working fine before Christmas, then I come back after the break (same work environment) and it had changed.

Oh well, fixed now - and another thing learnt about ArchiCAD.

Cheers

Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Dave Jochum — Sat, 15 Mar 2014 06:13:04 GMT

The insufferable rogue grid lines are back wreaking havoc in sections and elevations with the auto-staggering trick. Now it's only one grid line in the file, but I can't shake it. Delete and draw a new one, copy and paste a good one, drag a copy of a good one, close the file and start over--nothing works. And instead of just a random stagger, it's a stagger AND a correct non-stagger at the same time.

Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Bruce — Sun, 16 Mar 2014 20:37:04 GMT

Dave - it's not the grid settings that do this, but rather the Section settings.

Re: Grid options in section settings. AC12

Dave Jochum — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:33:04 GMT

Yes, the bug is related to the Section setting to Auto-stagger, but it is a bug. I should not be getting a two-headed grid marker, one staggered and one not, at the same time. And in the project that was the subject of the screen shot, there wasn't any conflict that required a stagger any way.