topic Re: 3d view is not working! in Modeling

3d view is not working!

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 14:32:19 GMT

Marqueed off an area of my model.
Went to orthogonal 3d view.
Adjusted 3d view to side elevation.
It appeared for a moment (looking normal) and then disappeared.
Since then I have not been able to get any 3d view to work at all, persp or orthog.
Occasionally I can select an object to bring up its green outline but otherwise it is all still invisible.
I have looked at:

layer visibility
renovation status
cutting planes
model view core/finish settings

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

File:
Archicad 16, solo file, 34meg

Machine:
Windows 7, Dell Precision T7600, Intel Xeon CPU E5-2650 0 @ 2.00 GHz 2.00 GHz, 16 gig ram, 64 bit

Re: 3d view is not working!

Anonymous — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 03:46:23 GMT

It would seem you're not the only one having similar issues...
Another thread

I just tried it out, went to axonometric view (o.k. so far), View> 3D Navigation Extras> Look to perpendicular of clicked surface, and my model, too, has disappeared (image below with elements selected). Going back to perspective view does not help. Rebuild does not help. Going to a saved 3D view does not help. Looks like a BIG problem.

Closed file without saving and re-opened - problem does not occur when you click on "Look to perpendicular..." in Perspective mode.

Re: 3d view is not working!

Anonymous — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 08:19:11 GMT

They say misery loves company but I'd sooner have this issue go away completely!

However I am glad I'm not crazy - thanks for replicating the results!
Copied model content into a new file and it seems to be behaving.
But for how long? I need to use the ortho views to generate some rendered elevations!

I'd rather worry about meeting deadlines than this.

Re: 3d view is not working!

Dwight — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 08:21:27 GMT

What happens if you shrink the 3D window?

Re: 3d view is not working!

BARMCD — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:29:24 GMT

Hi, I had the same problem recently and thanks to Alan at DCS AC support in Dublin for the following fix:

'The quickest solution in any Perspective problem like this is to
I. place a Camera in plan
II. select the Camera
III. right-click ‘Show All in 3D’
By selecting the camera in plan, the 3D window view is reset through the camera settings..'

Hope this helps

Brian

Re: 3d view is not working!

Anonymous — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:49:31 GMT

Dwight, no change.

I have two files open now - one that is working (copied my model over), the other showing 'invisible' symptoms.

Brain, Trying now...
No change.*

*left my machine on last night. came in to find it restarted (I blame windows). managed to recover both symptomatic and working files from the AC crash recovery window. Symptomatic file now shows a random bunch of objects in 3d (1 morph 6 roofs) - with nothing selected in 2d before opening 3d window.
These are visible as solids and are the only elements that get selected when selecting all.

...hang on - just switched renovation filter (which I don't use) from "06 show all elements" to "01 Exisitng Plan" and the model is back!

I thought "06 Show all elements" showed all elements regardless of reno status??

S2art can you try this?

Re: 3d view is not working!

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 00:42:34 GMT

...and replicated the problem.
marquee.
Show stored selection/marquee in 3d
switch to isometric mode
from Parallel projection settings select side view (azimuth 180).
Everything disappears.
Switch to perspective (still invisible)
Played with renovation filter 01 to 06 - no change.

Behaviour is inconsistant

Re: 3d view is not working!

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 01:35:35 GMT

As feared.
New 'clean' file has now done the same thing.

Re: 3d view is not working!

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 03:07:35 GMT

...and I'm using the latest hotfix 3270.

Next stop is reverting to AC15
does not bode well for all those morphs.

Archiwiki has a page talking about disappearing 3d information and linking it to the renovation settings. I smell smoke but still can not get my model to come back not matter what I do to the renovation settings. It is more than possible that I do not understand how they operate. The filters are linked to view settings but that still does not explain why the model becomes invisible as I am not changing the view ... Unless parallel projection retains a different reno setting?

http://archicadwiki.com/Bugs/ElementsNotVisibleIn3D

Re: 3d view is not working!

Marton Kiss — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:58:31 GMT

Thanks for everyone for contributing to this topic. I was able to replicate the problem here at GS and filed a bug report for our engineering team. We try our best to address this as soon as possible.

Based on my tests this mostly comes if we edit the viewing angle for the second time. Then rotating the model helps to get back the 3D, and the view can be set again (from scratch).

Regards,

Re: 3d view is not working!

Anonymous — Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:44:26 GMT

I'm experiencing a variation on this theme.

This morning, parts of several models started to disappear in the 3d window, and the more I tried, the more parts disappeared, until there was nothing visible at all. These are all 12-16MB files.

Changing from the OpenGL 3D engine back to the clunky Internal 3D engine seems to bring everything back in 3D...and so far, this only happens on my home office iMac (specs below) and not on my newer office iMac. This has been replicated over several projects.

Any thoughts on the OpenGL connection? Any chance there's an issue with the ATI Radeon HD 4670 256 MB card?

Re: 3d view is not working!

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:19:42 GMT

This is usually graphics card driver related, especially if it works fine with Internal 3D Engine.
Try updating your graphics card driver or finding a driver version which works fine.