topic Re: Fillet Profile Walls in Modeling

Fillet Profile Walls

Anonymous — Wed, 24 May 2023 10:50:01 GMT

I am writing from Santa Fe, NM where we like to show the adobe walls battered as in adobe construction. I have been able to make the profile walls, however, when I attempt to put a 4" fillet on the corners the walls will not clean up in plan. The wall profile is 12" thick & this will not allow me to use anything less than a 4" fillet. I am left with having to paste fills over the corners of the entire plan view. Very tedious! Is there anyone in the NM area doing this type of construction & have you found any better solutions?
Thanks.

Re: Fillet Profile Walls

Anonymous — Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:14:05 GMT

Here is a portion of the building showing the battered adobe walls. Couldn't fit the attachement on the previous post

Re: Fillet Profile Walls

rjwilden — Tue, 26 Feb 2013 23:23:34 GMT

Put a 5mm radius on the internal corner and it will work.
I gave up trying to make walls like this. Just make them square now.

Re: Fillet Profile Walls

Anonymous — Sun, 03 Aug 2014 16:55:54 GMT

Richard, I understand your giving up on the problem. However, I like to present Bimx models to our clients & with square corners the look is unacceptable. I have had to make walls with square corners for the construction documents with thin (2" to 3") battered walls on a separate layer that is only used for the elevations and the Bimx model. Very tedious, but it's the only solution I have been able to come up with. I'm wondering if there is anyone else out there in the ArchiCAD world that has come across this issue? Hello Santa Fe?

Re: Fillet Profile Walls

Steve Jepson — Sun, 03 Aug 2014 20:30:16 GMT

I think I would make a set of Plans/ArchiCAD model, for a pseudo Adobe house keeping all of the free form elements separate from the structural components, as opposed to trying to make wall types (for example) of something that is a mix of structural and non-structural/free-form parts.

It depends on if your modeling strictly for the graphics you want, or if you need to extract building information from the model.

The morph tool would certainly be a big help for modeling the free-form adobe features, and a rendering program that can use displacement and bump mapping to help shape the textures would also be good.

Re: Fillet Profile Walls

jclewis — Tue, 05 Aug 2014 04:10:23 GMT

Hi Jack

It is possible, although it involves a fair amount of work.

But first, is this what you're looking for?

Jim

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Anonymous — Tue, 05 Aug 2014 22:15:24 GMT

James, It's really nice to hear from you. I've come up with another way of doing this: I use the rectilinear walls on an "Ext.Wall" layer so I can use that for dimensioning & creating the C.D.'s of the floor plan. I use a thin Custom Profile for the battered walls (flaring out slightly at the bottom & arching back over the parapet. This Custom Profile is turned on for BimX & elevations. It's a little tedious. Tried morph but that seemed too inaccurate. I'm wondering if there is a better way to do this.

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jclewis — Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:21:27 GMT

Jack

What I showed was done using a custom 'corner piece' object. Place it at each corner and run your wall to it. You would, of course, have to create a separate piece for each different wall type.

Creating the object involves using the radius piece that a fillet creates, using solid operations on two short sections of profiled walls, saving as on object, cleaning up the 2d view, and a couple of tricks to make the 2d view compatible with your standard 2d view options. Call me if you want to be walked through the process.

A comment: it would be easier to make the model display as you want if you separated the wall into stories (e.g.: the first floor portion and the parapet portion); the parapet could be done with a radius since you probably won't be cutting a floor plan through it and the first story could be done using composites.

I can send a copy of the Archicad file that I used.

Jim

Re: Fillet Profile Walls

Anonymous — Thu, 07 Aug 2014 14:42:50 GMT

Thanks Jim. I'll contact you & we can go into this in more depth.