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    <title>topic Re: Archicad vs Autodesk and Bentley Agreement in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127027#M67361</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Rob wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;It must be a beautiful symphony to see four of them grunting away in a Mac Pro... one day I'd say.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Don't you mean eight? More like screaming than grunting (in a good way that is).&lt;BR /&gt;
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It is really cool (understatement). &lt;BR /&gt;
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I have been easily doing stuff in 12 that was difficult to impossible in 11.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I think Apple is going to see a run on Mac Pros after people start upgrading to 12.</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:54:06 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-15T15:54:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Archicad vs Autodesk and Bentley Agreement</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127017#M67351</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;T&gt;What do you think will be the impact of the recently anounced agreement between Autodesk and Bentley to share their APIs  on the greater effort to support open standards like IFC that have proven more promising than proprietory formats. What will be the effect of this to the graphisoft/vico community in terms of supporting interoperability issues in the future.&lt;/T&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:47:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-07-11T04:47:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad vs Autodesk and Bentley Agreement</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127018#M67352</link>
      <description>It looks like a move by the big guys to bury the competition. Interoperablity between Autodesk and Bentley makes IFC much less viable in the market place.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I'd be happy to be wrong, and find out that everybody will be invited to join the party. But even then I doubt that the peons would get to sit at the main table.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 05:44:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-07-11T05:44:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad vs Autodesk and Bentley Agreement</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127019#M67353</link>
      <description>Is there any good news one can share about future of GraphiSoft &amp;amp; ArchiCad, kind of tired of all negative thoughts?&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks,&lt;BR /&gt;
Joseph</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:46:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-07-11T18:46:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad vs Autodesk and Bentley Agreement</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127020#M67354</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Is there any good news one can share about future of GraphiSoft &amp;amp; ArchiCad, kind of tired of all negative thoughts? &lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks, &lt;BR /&gt;
Joseph&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

same durn here......sick of it</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:56:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127020#M67354</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rakela Raul</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-07-11T19:56:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad vs Autodesk and Bentley Agreement</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127021#M67355</link>
      <description>ArchiCAD 12 is very fast and has some cool new features. Just how cool will depend on who you are and what you do. I am very please with the partial structure display myself.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I believe that GS has some stuff coming along in the next couple versions that will be very cool. Could even be game changing, but I don't know enough to be sure and can't even say what little I do know (sorry &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_sad.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; ) Maybe I'm not even supposed to say that much. Ooops?&lt;BR /&gt;
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I think GS still has some strong opportunities if they can take advantage of them. What I'd really like to hear is Nemetschek's game plan (assuming they have one).&lt;BR /&gt;
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On the other hand if Bush and company decide to attack Iran the backlash against buying American products could be a big boost.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:43:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127021#M67355</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-07-11T23:43:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad vs Autodesk and Bentley Agreement</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127022#M67356</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Matthew wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;.........Could even be game changing..........&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
Coming from a Senior member makes a rookie feel a lot better no jumping off ship, keep it coming.&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks,&lt;BR /&gt;
Joseph</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:50:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127022#M67356</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-07-14T17:50:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad vs Autodesk and Bentley Agreement</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127023#M67357</link>
      <description>Archicad is the only solution worth considering (actually, probably the only one:) on a Mac, which happens to be the fastest growing platform, and the most progressive computer company.  That counts for a lot in my book, so I have no worries AC will be around, and continue growing.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:27:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127023#M67357</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rick Thompson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-07-14T18:27:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad vs Autodesk and Bentley Agreement</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127024#M67358</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Archicad is the only solution worth considering (actually, probably the only one:) on a Mac, which happens to be the fastest growing platform, and the most progressive computer company. That counts for a lot in my book, so I have no worries AC will be around, and continue growing&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

yesterday a bought a macbookpro and ac12 ROCKS !!!!</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:39:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127024#M67358</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rakela Raul</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-07-14T20:39:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad vs Autodesk and Bentley Agreement</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127025#M67359</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Rakela wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;/......&lt;BR /&gt;
yesterday a bought a macbookpro and ac12 ROCKS !!!!&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
Guess you will want to update your sig now, Raul &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_wink.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
Welcome to the club.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:23:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127025#M67359</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rod Jurich</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-07-15T00:23:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad vs Autodesk and Bentley Agreement</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127026#M67360</link>
      <description>I love to watch those two cpu core stacks in the activity monitor nicely jumping up and down next to each other...  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_wink.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  It must be a beautiful symphony to see four of them grunting away in a Mac Pro... one day I'd say.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:42:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127026#M67360</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-07-15T10:42:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad vs Autodesk and Bentley Agreement</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127027#M67361</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Rob wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;It must be a beautiful symphony to see four of them grunting away in a Mac Pro... one day I'd say.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Don't you mean eight? More like screaming than grunting (in a good way that is).&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
It is really cool (understatement). &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I have been easily doing stuff in 12 that was difficult to impossible in 11.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I think Apple is going to see a run on Mac Pros after people start upgrading to 12.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:54:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127027#M67361</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-07-15T15:54:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad vs Autodesk and Bentley Agreement</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127028#M67362</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Rick wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Archicad is the only solution worth considering (actually, probably the only one:) on a Mac, which happens to be the fastest growing platform, and the most progressive computer company.  That counts for a lot in my book, so I have no worries AC will be around, and continue growing.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Thanks for the comfort &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_biggrin.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; as long as AutoCad does not go after The Apple &amp;amp; sticks to Lemons. &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_wink.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
Joseph</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:56:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127028#M67362</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-07-15T17:56:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Archicad vs Autodesk and Bentley Agreement</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127029#M67363</link>
      <description>I found these links regarding the interoperability agreement which may interest some - &lt;BR /&gt;
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AEC magazines' view - &lt;A href="http://www.aecmag.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;task=view&amp;amp;id=247" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;A href="http://www.aecmag.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;task=view&amp;amp;id=247" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A href="&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;LINK_TEXT text=&amp;quot;http://www.aecmag.com/index.php?option= ... iew&amp;amp;id=247&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.aecmag.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;task=view&amp;amp;id=247&amp;lt;/LINK_TEXT&amp;gt;&amp;lt;e&amp;gt;"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/S&gt;&lt;LINK_TEXT text="http://www.aecmag.com/index.php?option= ... iew&amp;amp;id=247"&gt;http://www.aecmag.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;task=view&amp;amp;id=247&lt;/LINK_TEXT&gt;&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Bentleys' own view - &lt;A href="http://communities.bentley.com/blogs/keith_bentleys_blog/archive/2008/07/31/the-bentley-autodesk-agreement-what-does-it-mean-for-bentley-users.aspx" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;A href="http://communities.bentley.com/blogs/keith_bentleys_blog/archive/2008/07/31/the-bentley-autodesk-agreement-what-does-it-mean-for-bentley-users.aspx" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A href="&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;LINK_TEXT text=&amp;quot;http://communities.bentley.com/blogs/ke ... users.aspx&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://communities.bentley.com/blogs/keith_bentleys_blog/archive/2008/07/31/the-bentley-autodesk-agreement-what-does-it-mean-for-bentley-users.aspx&amp;lt;/LINK_TEXT&amp;gt;&amp;lt;e&amp;gt;"&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/S&gt;&lt;LINK_TEXT text="http://communities.bentley.com/blogs/ke ... users.aspx"&gt;http://communities.bentley.com/blogs/keith_bentleys_blog/archive/2008/07/31/the-bentley-autodesk-agreement-what-does-it-mean-for-bentley-users.aspx&lt;/LINK_TEXT&gt;&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:58:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/Archicad-vs-Autodesk-and-Bentley-Agreement/m-p/127029#M67363</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-09-01T19:58:08Z</dc:date>
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