topic Concrete Column and Beam Structure in Modeling

Concrete Column and Beam Structure

Anonymous — Thu, 25 May 2023 15:48:15 GMT

Hi, I'm pretty new to archicad, and I am interested to know what is the best way to draw and model a basic concrete column, beam, and slab structure. The columns I have run 4 stories high, is it better to draw these as one single column, intersecting with the beams and slabs, or should I draw them as separate columns for each storey, with the beams and slabs sitting on top of the columns?

Thanks, Jake

Re: Concrete Column and Beam Structure

Erika Epstein — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:21:12 GMT

A general rule is to model virtually as it would be built. So, story by story is most likely correct if each story's columns support the floor slab above it.

Re: Concrete Column and Beam Structure

Anonymous — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:11:40 GMT

Did I hear correctly that structural engineering programs (like tekla for example) require tall columns to be split up by storey in order to be analysed? If you know you need to export your structural model in the future, then this might have an effect on how you model things. It would be worth checking to know for sure.

Re: Concrete Column and Beam Structure

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:08:29 GMT

Jake,

If your beam and column pattern is a regular grid or arc structure, the grid tool can automatically insert all of the columns and beams for you.

Cheers,
Karl

Re: Concrete Column and Beam Structure

Aussie John — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:10:56 GMT

Erika wrote:
A general rule is to model virtually as it would be built. So, story by story is most likely correct if each story's columns support the floor slab above it.

Rules are meant to be broken If it is quicker to model with one column for all storeys and you think there might be a chance they get moved later, then to me it is a no brainer to do all at once, especially if your model started at concept stage.

One issue might be if you want to 3d preview a single floor then the process is a little more complex. Also columns generally tend to get skinnier as they go up.

The theory that a model should match how it is built is somewhat academic for monolithic concrete column/slab construction.

Re: Concrete Column and Beam Structure

Erika Epstein — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:19:25 GMT

Aussie wrote:
Rules are meant to be broken

So true