topic bay window with not-perpendicular opening? in Modeling

bay window with not-perpendicular opening?

Anonymous — Thu, 25 May 2023 16:09:16 GMT

in Hong Kong, place is very limited, high rise and high dense buildings are very common. There are situation for bay window is not perpendicular to the wall, let say, facing 15 degree instead. just like the attachment, this is made by only 2d lines.

However, I still dunno how to do so.

Anyone know? thanks

Re: bay window with not-perpendicular opening?

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:09:17 GMT

Since a Window can only be placed into a Wall:
Draw them as Walls and then place the Windows into them.

Re: bay window with not-perpendicular opening?

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:40:15 GMT

Actually, using the library 'bay' assemblies as an example, this does not need to be done with walls and inserted windows - although it certainly can be.

You can model the entire bay assembly consisting of the extended sill (or floor), window frame, glass, ceiling and roof as well as a wall cutting slab with the ID=wallhole in the floor plan using normal tools and then save the entire assembly as a window. Placing the result in the wall will cut the hole.

Remember that when you assemble a custom window in plan, you do so flat on the ground, with the zero height equal to the outside of the building. So, your bay would be built below zero. The window walls would have to be done with roofs or tilted (complex or not) columns.

Cheers,
Karl

Re: bay window with not-perpendicular opening?

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:36:52 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
Since a Window can only be placed into a Wall:
Draw them as Walls and then place the Windows into them.

But one side is shorter than the other side

Re: bay window with not-perpendicular opening?

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:41:52 GMT

Karl wrote:
Actually, using the library 'bay' assemblies as an example, this does not need to be done with walls and inserted windows - although it certainly can be.l

sorry, I can't place the window without a wall

You can model the entire bay assembly consisting of the extended sill (or floor), window frame, glass, ceiling and roof as well as a wall cutting slab with the ID=wallhole in the floor plan using normal tools and then save the entire assembly as a window. Placing the result in the wall will cut the hole.

That mean I have to model whole window again? it is so inconvenient.....

Re: bay window with not-perpendicular opening?

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:51:00 GMT

but finally, I have to model it by thin wall and thin slab as the bay window

not yet set the materials, but basically, it is done in both 3D and 2D!!

Thanks you all ^_^

Re: bay window with not-perpendicular opening?

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:32:28 GMT

angus wrote:
Karl wrote:
Actually, using the library 'bay' assemblies as an example, this does not need to be done with walls and inserted windows - although it certainly can be.l
sorry, I can't place the window without a wall

You can model the entire bay assembly consisting of the extended sill (or floor), window frame, glass, ceiling and roof as well as a wall cutting slab with the ID=wallhole in the floor plan using normal tools and then save the entire assembly as a window. Placing the result in the wall will cut the hole.
That mean I have to model whole window again? it is so inconvenient.....

The 'bay' is the window. See the attached screenshot of your own image. The entire assembly would be a single window object which cuts the hole (red arrows) in the host wall (yes - you need a wall). You then pop them in everywhere that you need them. If anything about the bay changes, you change the object and all bays change.

The alternative is an empty opening combined with two walls and two slabs (at least) as you have done ...the walls, window and slabs could be a hotlinked module, allowing one change to change all instances later - but the wallhole would have to be placed individually and the modules aligned.... And the bay walls will not clean up correctly with your main walls, although you could make them polywalls I suppose...?

Let us know what ends up working best for you.

Karl