topic Re: concrete fill in Modeling

concrete fill

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:49:55 GMT

I'm looking for a concrete fill that looks like it has random ruble and sand in it. For the last few years I've been using the Lightweight Concrete fill that came with ArchiCAD but it looks like a repeated pattern. I would prefer to use on that looks more random.

I'm also looking for a more attractive earth fill in case you have or know of one that looks more hand drawn.

I'm sure that there are better concrete and earth fills for ArchICAD than the ones that I have.

Can anyone post, send me or point me to a concrete fill that looks more random and an earth fill that looks more hand drawn?

I'm post screen shots of the Lightweight Concrete Fill and the concrete fill that one of my engineers uses. He's using AutoCAD so I don't think there is an easy why for me to use the fill he has.

Thank you,
John

Re: concrete fill

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:50:54 GMT

AutoCAD_Concrete_Fill

Re: concrete fill

Erich — Fri, 12 Nov 2010 05:14:14 GMT

This is easy. If you like the Autocad fill. Merge and Autocad file with that fill into and empty Archicad file. This will automatically add the autocad fill. You can then use attribute transfer to safely move the new fill to your template.

Beyond that you can create any fill you want just by drawing it. Getting it to blend will can be a bit more tricking depending on the fill. There was a recent post of this subject that a simple search should turn up.

While I am not certain this is the fill your engineer uses, it should be close.

Re: concrete fill

Anonymous — Fri, 12 Nov 2010 07:42:17 GMT

Aloha Erich,
Thank you for your suggestion and the offer of the Conc.aat file. I am not sure what to do with the Conc.aat file.
While I was trying to figure out what to do with an AAT file I opened a new clean ArchiCAD project and discovered a fill called Concrete Random which is exactly the concrete fill that I was looking for as well as an earth fill that is perfect too.
I am a little embarrassed to have asked for the fills when they were right here in front of me. I had looked for the fills and asked two of my CAD guys for it so I assumed that it wasn't here. I neglegected to just open a fresh copy of ArchiCAD and look there. In the end it was your suggestion that got me to do it so thank you.
Aloha,
John

BTW What program works with an AAT file?

Re: concrete fill

Barry Kelly — Fri, 12 Nov 2010 08:14:03 GMT

johncassel wrote:
BTW What program works with an AAT file?

Archicad

It is an attribute file.
You can use the Attribute Manager to open it and then APPEND them into you PLN.

Barry.

Re: concrete fill

Rod Jurich — Fri, 12 Nov 2010 08:21:50 GMT

johncassel wrote:
/.....
BTW What program works with an AAT file?

G'day John, ArchiCAD opens aat files.
See attached. The Attribute Manager is your friend,
or it can also be your enemy

Quick as ever Barry

Re: concrete fill

Anonymous — Fri, 12 Nov 2010 08:33:39 GMT

Thanks Barry and Rod,
I tried opening the Conc.aat with Attribute Manager but got an error message (see below).
Is it the file or a version incomparability. I'm using ArchiCAD 11.

I'm trying to make friends with the Attribute Manager. Seems like a super handy feature.
Thank you,
John

Re: concrete fill

Barry Kelly — Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:11:30 GMT

If the attribute file was created in version 12 (or newer) then it can't be opened in version 11.
Older files can be opened in newer version though.
Barry.

Re: concrete fill

Rod Jurich — Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:01:35 GMT

johncassel wrote:
/.. I'm using ArchiCAD 11.

John, attached saved out of my 11 template. Rename it as you see fit.

Re: concrete fill

Rod Jurich — Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:02:45 GMT

......... and the image 1:100 at 100%

Re: concrete fill

JaredBanks — Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:44:59 GMT

Here's an image of the random concrete fill I use. It was pretty simple to make. I actually don't use it much anymore (except for details) because it can be a memory hog. As symbolic fills get larger they definitely slow down regeneration time. And you want a random fill large enough to feel random.

Re: concrete fill

Anonymous — Fri, 12 Nov 2010 17:05:32 GMT

Cool Rod,
Thank you so much. The community on the forum is great.
Mahalo,
John

Re: concrete fill

Erich — Sat, 13 Nov 2010 04:29:13 GMT

John,

Sorry to just get back to you rather belatedly. Yes, as Rod and Barry surmised, the fill was quickly done in AC 12, I didn't notice that you were on 11.