topic Re: How to create this Wall ? in Modeling

How to create this Wall ?

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:37:49 GMT

Hi all,
I wonder how to create this wall? Using complex profile or a simple wall tool or something else?
Please advise.
Many thanks
p.s. This wall is the the side wall of a disable ramp.

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:49:21 GMT

put your wall in with the height of the highest point. then place a roof surface over it at the cut angle you want and then trim to roof (under design)

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:03:43 GMT

Hi,
That's one way.Many thanks
Do you know other alternatives? More simple like in sketchup that we can just drag points/hot-spot or something ?
thanks

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Dennis Lee — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:16:46 GMT

You could draw that wall's elevation view in Complex Profiles, and draw the wall in the short direction.

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Fran_ois Chatelain — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:22:32 GMT

Hi Tran,
if you don't need openings in it, simply use the mesh tool with sharp edges.

Cheers
Francois

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:33:30 GMT

Hi,
It does not need any opening. thanks

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:52:01 GMT

Hi all,
Many thanks for your inputs. All are great help. They all work.
Cheers,

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Link — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:24:17 GMT

tranthainguyen wrote:
Hi,
It does not need any opening. thanks

Well that's ironic, because you could actually use an opening (with an inclined sill) to cut that shape out of the wall.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:01:01 GMT

Dennis wrote:
You could draw that wall's elevation view in Complex Profiles, and draw the wall in the short direction.

When i do that it wont show the wall if i cut a section thru it.

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Dennis Lee — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:12:34 GMT

I had to try it to see, but as you can see, it does show no matter which way you cut the section. The wall is drawn in the short direction as I was saying.

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:13:54 GMT

Use a roof (the "operator", on a layer which you can turn off) to SEO* "subtract with upwards extrusion" from the wall (the "target"). If you ever have to modify the cut line just move the roof as required and the resulting cut will change automatically (just don't delete the roof).

*Solid Element Operation, under Design menu.

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Djordje — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:12:23 GMT

s2art wrote:
Use a roof (the "operator", on a layer which you can turn off) to SEO* "subtract with upwards extrusion" from the wall (the "target"). If you ever have to modify the cut line just move the roof as required and the resulting cut will change automatically (just don't delete the roof).

*Solid Element Operation, under Design menu.

There is no need for SEO here. Place a cutting roof plane, Trim to roof. It holds, whatever you do with the roof later.

The mesh solution is probably the least painful one.

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Anonymous — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 16:28:53 GMT

Djordje wrote:

The mesh solution is probably the least painful one.

Unless you need to extract some documentation from the model (and not just pretty pictures). Then you have to use a wall, and SEO or cut-to-roof.

Either way, the plan will not parse out correctly, because the wall will not show cut/view as it should.

And there you are stuck.

So, avoid those kind of walls. Just install an elevator...

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Anonymous — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:56:13 GMT

Sort of a wish regarding having just done a ramped C.P. wall with seo, with
"roof" on a hidden layer.
As in the attachment, I have a ramped C.P. wall with pre-drawn fills as plates, one on the bottom and two at the top. HOWEVER, (of course) the two top plates did not show, and had to be drawn in in section.
Therefore my wish is to have the tops plates of the primary C.P. wall somehow show in section, so I don't have to draw them in and then redraw if I change the cut location.
Or is this possible, (I highly doubt it), already?
Bier

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Link — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 00:00:57 GMT

Does this help?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Anonymous — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:58:43 GMT

Ok, so the answer is no for now.
(That sounds like vote no on yes).
Oh well, back to the dilemma.
So, how about since you can transfer parameters from
operator to target, right?
So how about in near future could have ready made roof with
two flat rafters stacked on top of each other,(no real world situation where you would see this), so that when trimming a wall with a "operator roof" the flat double rafters (selectable transfer) could be transferred to the wall, doing all in one fell swoop, and have sections and bim in one.
I know, wild , wild idea, but what the heck.
Think about GS.
Bier

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Link — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 02:03:16 GMT

It may make more sense to cut your walls using inclined beams as rafters?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: How to create this Wall ?

Anonymous — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:11:22 GMT

Bier wrote:
Ok, so the answer is no for now.

You can easily do that cutting the wall with a roof then inserting a inclined beam made with a complex profile.

The section will be perfect, no need to fool around with 2D.
The plan thou is a whole different bucket of worms...