topic Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky... in Modeling

AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:49:59 GMT

Hello,

I frequently use the "Explore Model" option to fly around the building and see if everything is working smoothly. Since upgrading to 12, whenever I use the Explore Model, it does nothing the first time. I select the "little man" icon, and usually I can navigate right away. Now, it temporarily freezes the screen. I have to push escape and do it again, sometimes 3 times before I can actually explore.

Is this a bug that needs to be fixed or is there a way around this?

Anyone else have this happen??

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

kevin b — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:19:33 GMT

Works fine for me.

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:28:53 GMT

It has been working better as I go along, but still jams up occasionally.

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:14:56 GMT

Are you sure you are using OpenGL?

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:23:25 GMT

I just tried it and had no problems at all. Much faster than 11.

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:52:16 GMT

I am using Open GL. It's strange because I opened a different project and it's working fine, but then some other models sometimes freeze up. I have a brand spanking new computer so I know that is not the issue.

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:52:47 GMT

I agree when it is working it is much faster than 11.

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:54:08 GMT

Maybe my squirrel bodyguard should slap it around

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Gerald Hoffman — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:58:14 GMT

Steven wrote:
Maybe my squirrel bodyguard should slap it around

Let me know if you need some help.

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:08:28 GMT

I almost wet myself laughing... what are the chances of two super ArchiCAD squirrels on the same post?

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Dwight — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:25:18 GMT

Perhaps the OpenGL view defaults changed.

Check 3D Windo Settings>OpenGL Options.

The fastest navigation mode limits full display distance and eliminates rendering those ugly OpenGL textures.

Remember that Squirrels are just rats with fancy tails.

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:45:01 GMT

Really an off-topic response... but IMHO if anyone experiences the intuitiveness, speed and fluidity of 3D navigation using the 3dconnexion SpaceNavigator, they'll never use any other method to navigate an ArchiCAD model (or SketchUp, Artlantis, etc etc).

Cheers,
Karl

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:46:41 GMT

Hmmmm... I've never heard of a flying rat. They can swim though...

http://www.pvmasters.org/~newsletter/Dec-04/rat.jpg

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Dwight — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:53:47 GMT

Hahahaha!

Next it will be a rat snorkel and tiny rat drinks-with-umbrellas.

I am another voice for Space Navigator. Fantastic value! And comes with blue undercar lighting.

Google Earth is the best place for it...... zoom zoom zoom. Like an old Mazda ad.

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:58:37 GMT

Karl wrote:
Really an off-topic response... but IMHO if anyone experiences the intuitiveness, speed and fluidity of 3D navigation using the 3dconnexion SpaceNavigator, they'll never use any other method to navigate an ArchiCAD model (or SketchUp, Artlantis, etc etc).

Cheers,
Karl

mmm... i've tried 3dconnexion , didn't like it at all

And being a PC games geek , using W-A-S-D and mouse to navigate feels almost like being home in pajamas !

and yes I am having the issue that mentioned in this topic, although i didn't have much time to look into it .

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:03:04 GMT

whatever wrote:
And being a PC games geek , using W-A-S-D and mouse to navigate feels almost like being home in pajamas !

AMEN!

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

__archiben — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:07:47 GMT

Steven wrote:
Since upgrading to 12, whenever I use the Explore Model, it does nothing the first time. I select the "little man" icon, and usually I can navigate right away. Now, it temporarily freezes the screen. I have to push escape and do it again, sometimes 3 times before I can actually explore.

Is this a bug that needs to be fixed or is there a way around this?

Anyone else have this happen??

it's not a 12 issue - i used to get that quite frequently with larger models in 11 too. i'm guessing it might be a graphics card thing.

i've just learnt not to be so hasty to begin 'exploring' and it seems to come right . . .

~/archiben

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:26:40 GMT

Well Ben I believe you have it! If I "push the little man" and immediately try to fly around, it will freeze up; If I give it a second before exploring, it seems to work ok.

I guess it's just like bonsai, you need a little patience...

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Dwight — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:31:13 GMT

The computer needs some time to get that model out of the cache and into RAM so you can play Peter Pan.

Re: AC 12: Explore Model very clunky...

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:44:47 GMT

whatever wrote:
mmm... i've tried 3dconnexion , didn't like it at all

I suspected that gamers might feel differently about it. Personally, I set it for the fastest response time (slow out of the box for learning) and in ArchiCAD, I use 'object' mode, where moving the spacenavigator mimics holding the model in your hand (so to speak). It can also operate in 'fly' mode in which all axes are reversed - and is probably more like gamers are used to?

Cheers,
Karl