topic Re: Complex Profile problem in Modeling

Complex Profile problem

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Jul 2025 10:22:28 GMT

I've created a complex profile of a 10" block wall atop a concrete footing. I want to be able to stretch the wall vertically. Not the footing, just the wall. See my attached screenshot. I've placed the vertical stretch lines at the top of the wall and the top of the footing. I've turned the horizontal stretch off because I don't need to stretch it horizontally (check my screenshot to make sure I've done it correctly). All seems well, until I go to a section cut through the wall and try to stretch the wall vertically. The only option that shows up is a horizontal stretch! What am I doing wrong?

I'm very new to complex profiles so please bear with me.

Re: Complex Profile problem

Anonymous — Wed, 05 May 2010 14:08:33 GMT

I got it to stretch vertically, but while in the 3D perspective window only, and the footing also stretched. What gives??

Re: Complex Profile problem

Erika Epstein — Wed, 05 May 2010 14:48:23 GMT

Did you remember to click the "store profile" button after adjusting the stretch lines to store the change?

Re: Complex Profile problem

Anonymous — Wed, 05 May 2010 14:54:25 GMT

Yes. Attached is a section through the wall. I can see the horizontal stretch lines but where are the vertical?

On a side note, is that how you store changes to a C.P., by clicking the "store profile" button? And will all the profiles with that name automatically update?

Re: Complex Profile problem

Erika Epstein — Wed, 05 May 2010 15:25:31 GMT

No, they won't update automatically which is good. If they did you would loose any customization such as individual instances being taller reverting.

Select the CP instances you want to update and click in the Profile Manager the Apply to Selection button.

Re: Complex Profile problem

Anonymous — Wed, 05 May 2010 15:27:12 GMT

Ok that makes sense. Any ideas why I cannot vertically stretch my wall?

Re: Complex Profile problem

Anonymous — Wed, 05 May 2010 15:34:39 GMT

Can you not stretch something in section? Now I go into 3D as I said before and I can stretch to my hearts delight, but being able to stretch in section would be ideal...

Re: Complex Profile problem

Erika Epstein — Wed, 05 May 2010 15:38:50 GMT

I think your wall doesn't like you

If you are having trouble graphically stretching it, enter the new height and then rebuild the section.

Re: Complex Profile problem

Anonymous — Wed, 05 May 2010 15:41:06 GMT

fuck!!!! Just letting out some frustration....

Re: Complex Profile problem

Anonymous — Wed, 05 May 2010 17:43:33 GMT

When the profiles were first introduced changes would reset all instances to the new default. Thankfully this was corrected. Of course they still update to include any changes aside from the custom height/width.

Also remember that the wall won't stretch to be smaller than it is drawn in the profile editor.

Re: Complex Profile problem

Anonymous — Wed, 05 May 2010 17:57:38 GMT

Matthew wrote:
Also remember that the wall won't stretch to be smaller than it is drawn in the profile editor.

Ok, so when drawing a foundation wall that you'd like to use in multiple projects, you should make it small (in height) knowing that you can always stretch it larger, correct?

This is not the case with my current wall issue though, I cannot make it larger either.

Re: Complex Profile problem

Anonymous — Wed, 05 May 2010 18:07:41 GMT

Steven wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Also remember that the wall won't stretch to be smaller than it is drawn in the profile editor.
Ok, so when drawing a foundation wall that you'd like to use in multiple projects, you should make it small (in height) knowing that you can always stretch it larger, correct?

Yes. Always make adjustable profiles the smallest they will need to be.

Re: Complex Profile problem

Anonymous — Wed, 05 May 2010 18:12:01 GMT

2 unanswered questions...

1. Are the vertical stretch lines on my first post at the right location?

2. Can you stretch vertically in section?

Re: Complex Profile problem

Anonymous — Wed, 05 May 2010 18:29:25 GMT

Steven wrote:
2 unanswered questions...

1. Are the vertical stretch lines on my first post at the right location?

Yes. The stemwall will stretch leaving the footing the same. In your other screen shot it looks like you may not have hotspots placed at the lower stretch line. This could cause problems.

2. Can you stretch vertically in section?

Walls no. Beams yes.
Stretch horizontally: Walls yes. Beams no.
Go figure.
Sections are old and quirky.

Re: Complex Profile problem

Anonymous — Wed, 05 May 2010 20:49:50 GMT

How do I get hotspots placed at the lower stretch line? I can place a hotspot but it goes on the construction layer. I've poured through the help menu and it mentions nothing about this.

If you cannot stretch a wall vertically in section, where do you stretch it vertically? It seems that the section would be the best place to do this...

Re: Complex Profile problem

Erika Epstein — Wed, 05 May 2010 22:21:03 GMT

Steve, your stretch marks are fine. Take a look at the screenshots here and the next post. In the section window you need only click on a CORNER node to active the stretch. From the pet palette select the type of stretch, vertical or horizontal, that you want.

Re: Complex Profile problem

Erika Epstein — Wed, 05 May 2010 22:23:15 GMT

and in the 3D window

Re: Complex Profile problem

Anonymous — Thu, 06 May 2010 12:33:46 GMT

Ok got it. There must be something wrong with the profile I made because it's just not working. I'll go back to the drawing board...

Thanks to all for the help.