topic Re: Is it possible in AC13? in Modeling

Is it possible in AC13?

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:18:30 GMT

hi from lithuania!
i'm planning to buy AC 13, and have a question about this wall.
Is it possible to make it by ArchiCad13 and how?

please, help with this . now i'm using AC12

Re: Is it possible in AC13?

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:24:59 GMT

I think it can be done using Solid Element Operations:

Create a Wall.
Then create a Profile in the Profile Manager. There create many many Fills that would represent the holes in the Wall.
Apply this new Profile to a new Wall that would only be as long as the width of the Wall. Draw this cutting Wall perpendicular to the original Wall.
Perform a Subtraction SEO with the Profiled Wall as Operator.

Re: Is it possible in AC13?

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:35:07 GMT

yes, thanks..
I know how to make profile wall, and I know only how to edit it only in a cut..
Maybe its possible to edit wall solid profile by wall front view? not only by a cut ? look at the attach file

Thanks

Re: Is it possible in AC13?

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:10:57 GMT

Yes, that is also possible, maybe even simpler than my suggestion.

Re: Is it possible in AC13?

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:18:02 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
Then create a Profile in the Profile Manager. There create many many Fills that would represent the holes in the Wall.
Apply this new Profile to a new Wall that would only be as long as the width of the Wall. Draw this cutting Wall perpendicular to the original Wall.
Perform a Subtraction SEO with the Profiled Wall as Operator.

please, show me how to do it.. cant understand
step by step?

in my variation i cant intersect walls.

like this one pics..

Re: Is it possible in AC13?

Chazz — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:45:06 GMT

vasare,

This is definitely possible to model (keeping the model editable, documentable and revisable in a meaningful way is another question) but with all due respect, your request for step-by-step instruction on what is a very advanced procedure is a little absurd, given that you do not even own the software yet.

My advice: get a license, build a few conventional structures and then try tackling something like this. As you can see, folks are very willing to help (present nattering company excepted) but it will be much easier for everyone once you gain some familiarity with the tool.

Re: Is it possible in AC13? (wall design)

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:24:27 GMT

Chazz, thanks for reply 😉 I use AC12 and trying to draw smth like that.. its not easy to desigh this wall. so I thougt that AC13 has easier way with wall desigh, but - no

Re: Is it possible in AC13?

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:45:19 GMT

vasare wrote:
Is it possible to make it by ArchiCad13 and how?

so I thougt that AC13 has easier way with wall desigh, but - no

Just to clarify, there is nothing in AC13 that will make this any easier to model than in AC12!

Re: Is it possible in AC13?

Chazz — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:50:09 GMT

In my own practice, and aside from TW2-which I don't have much need for, there is functionally no difference between AC12 and AC13 (except 13 crashes more and gives you the patronizing and bogus "out of memory" error).

If you were looking for new modeling capability, to be able to achieve shapes that you simply could not practically create in 12, you will be disappointed (as I am). Where is this company and product going?

Re: Is it possible in AC13?

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:25:34 GMT

Rrrrrr .. I think its time to think about another arch- design progrmm.

Re: Is it possible in AC13?

Chazz — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:40:10 GMT

vasare wrote:
sh**ts..

I guess the Lithuanians enjoy more freedom of speech and don't get fuck

Re: Is it possible in AC13?

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:41:13 GMT

vasare wrote:
s***s.. I think its time to think about another arch- design progrmm.

ArchiCAD doesn't do curvy freeform shaped stuff very well at the moment. If this is the type of building that you will specialise in, then ArchiCAD probably isn't the tool to use at the moment. I suspect in the future this will improve, but there is no guarantee when.

Fortunately for 'conventionally' shaped buildings, which form 98% of the rest of the market, it does model and document very well!

Re: Is it possible in AC13?

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:52:55 GMT

yeah. i'm sorry for a censore
thanks again everybody for a help.

going to change last post

Re: Is it possible in AC13?

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:57:16 GMT

Maybe you cannot create it in ArchiCAD, it definitely can be done by using Cinema4D and theArchiCAD exchange plugin.
Personally I don't know how to use Cinema4D, but I know that you can start building this wall in ArchiCAD, send it to C4D, modify it freely and in every shape imaginable and then send it back to ArchiCAD. Especially in AC13 the exchange has improved, so I hear.

Re: Is it possible in AC13?

Anonymous — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:31:34 GMT

looking for a cinema4d for ac12. i'll try
I lost a full of day to get smth similar like the designed wall. lot of ways, and the best one with ac12 was creating simple wall with curtain profile beam. quite good result.