topic Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls in Modeling

Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Nando Mogollon — Wed, 27 May 2009 06:38:50 GMT

Hi Gentlemen

Does anyone knows how to use this option (see the image) on the curtain walls?
-how to create the profile, how to save it where to save it?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Regards

Nando

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Rafal SLEK — Wed, 27 May 2009 09:27:53 GMT

There is nothing in AC documentation about it. It is rather easy to made some custom elements but if You need some more info You find nothing.
Maybe in next GDL Handbook release...

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Anonymous — Wed, 27 May 2009 10:54:41 GMT

Rafal!

Beautifully illustrated description: let me know if you ever publish your own book.

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Nando Mogollon — Wed, 27 May 2009 14:06:07 GMT

wow, what a good "ArchiCAD for dummies" it could be

Thanks Rafal!

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Rafal SLEK — Thu, 28 May 2009 14:23:25 GMT

Samovar wrote:
: let me know if you ever publish your own book.

Thanks for nice words 🙂
Accidentally I wrote years ago a book for ArchiCAD 8.1/9 but without any comics in it...
... but I think that reading it in polish could be also very funny for You.

Regarding custom elements for CW - problem appears with 2D symbols. I am looking for any good explanation how to prepare it (with minimum effort). The worst-case is go through Curtain Walls GDL scripts from standard library objects.

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:33:13 GMT

Hi Guys
As a follow on to the very nice illustration above, you can download this guide (no catches, honest 😉 ) from here that is a little wordier and shows the 'next step' in terms of profile development. Pretty much the last 6 pages are untested by a lot of people at this stage but it works for me!

Its about 6mb btw.

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:03:40 GMT

JasonCCL wrote:
Hi Guys
As a follow on to the very nice illustration above, you can download this guide (no catches, honest 😉 ) from here that is a little wordier and shows the 'next step' in terms of profile development. Pretty much the last 6 pages are untested by a lot of people at this stage but it works for me!

Its about 6mb btw.

Thanks for taking the time to write this up. I had a play with custom frames for curtain walls but failed miserably, so hopefully this will help!

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:16:05 GMT

Hi Peter.
Hope you have your walking cane ready.
I see you are about to become a "Senior".
Congrats, (almost).

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Mats_Knutsson — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:05:37 GMT

JasonCCL wrote:
Hi Guys
As a follow on to the very nice illustration above, you can download this guide (no catches, honest 😉 ) from here that is a little wordier and shows the 'next step' in terms of profile development. Pretty much the last 6 pages are untested by a lot of people at this stage but it works for me!

Its about 6mb btw.

Really great stuff. Thumbs up! Thanks!!!

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Mats_Knutsson — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:01:43 GMT

Btw, how do I go about if I want to do custom frame profile without caps?

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Anonymous — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:44:56 GMT

Hello.

I can't see CW frame, panel or cap option in the dropdown menu ... am I doing something wrong?

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:45:53 GMT

Which version of ArchiCAD are you using?
Curtain Wall is available in AC12 and later.

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:12:30 GMT

Using ArchiCAD 12 with latest updates.

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:24:06 GMT

What Library do you have loaded?
Is it the default AC12 Library or something else?
Does it work if you load the default ArchiCAD 12 Library?

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:31:47 GMT

Ah, yes. It was a library issue. I had version 11 and version 9 loaded.

Still, after experimenting a little, I figured it's more trouble than its worth. All I really wanted was to make the cap and the frame of different materials, but creating a custom frame creates a ton of new issues.

Thanks anyway 😉

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:09:09 GMT

This is a bit off-topic, but what would be the simplest way to make the cap and the frame of different materials?

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Jere — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 18:30:30 GMT

JasonCCL wrote:
Hi Guys
As a follow on to the very nice illustration above, you can download this guide (no catches, honest 😉 ) from here that is a little wordier and shows the 'next step' in terms of profile development. Pretty much the last 6 pages are untested by a lot of people at this stage but it works for me!

Its about 6mb btw.

Hi, can anybody send me this pdf or send me an updated link?

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 01:03:10 GMT

Jere wrote:
JasonCCL wrote:
Hi Guys
As a follow on to the very nice illustration above, you can download this guide (no catches, honest 😉 ) from here that is a little wordier and shows the 'next step' in terms of profile development. Pretty much the last 6 pages are untested by a lot of people at this stage but it works for me!

Its about 6mb btw.
Hi, can anybody send me this pdf or send me an updated link?

Have you tried sending Jason a Private Mail perhaps? Click the PM button below one of his posts.

I have a copy of the file myself, but it would be worth asking Jason direct just in case he has updated it.

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Jere — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:22:33 GMT

I sent him a PM, but I'm not sure if he's still active on these forums.

Re: Custom frame profile with Curtain Walls

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 08:35:26 GMT

Hi There!

I Have been trying to create a suspended ceiling with the curtain wall tool.

I have managed to create my own custom Junction for the suspension joint and i have managed a 600x1200 ceiling grid.

But what i am struggling with is getting the aluminium suspension T section Frame to work correctly.

I First tried saving the 'T' as a custom curtain wall frame, via save as custom curtain wall frame. bit for that to work i needed a curtain wall cap, so i tried to create a curtain wall cap that would simply extend the ceiling 'T' but it stretched it to the full width of the T.

I Figured I had to create a custom Library Part, similar to Lib.17 library part Frame 17.gsm, or Corner Frame 17.gsm. My First attempt was to simply edit the library part. But i know NOTHING of GDL, so that proved useless. the closest i could get was to save my 'slab' as an object, open the object and set the subtype to Model Element/Building Element/Curtain Wall Component/Curtain Wall Frame. It then picked it up in the context menu together with Frame 17 etc. but the new problem was that it did not place my reference point at the correct place. i tried using the origin, but that didn't work, i tried setting the offsets under geometry. but i cant figure out how to get it to work.

Please advice or point me in a direction of someone who can advice on the subject. I have tried finding posts about this, and this one is the closest i could get.

I noticed Mats_Knutson mentioned a curtain wall without caps... has anyone figured out how to do that?

Attached is the image of what i want to achieve.