topic Re: Column or wall probelm ?!?! in Modeling

Column or wall probelm ?!?!

Anonymous — Thu, 25 May 2023 15:47:05 GMT

Hi ..I need really help about wall and column plan or section :

As you know we have problems with the wall finishing attaching to a slab core in section while we using Wall Composite .... this problem could be solved by using Wall complex profile ... but when I used this solution, i got another problem... in this case, my columns couldn't warped by wall finishing ... actually it seems that column just work with composite wall not with complex profile wall !
So what can I do to have both good finishing connection of wall and slab in section .. and column warping in plan ?

I really need to know the solution !!!
Thank u
hamed kassaei
hamedkassaei@gmail.com

Re: Column or wall probelm ?!?!

TMA_80 — Tue, 18 May 2010 08:55:09 GMT

Hi!

could you post a picture showing the problem and the "correct result" ?

Re: Column or wall probelm ?!?!

Anonymous — Tue, 18 May 2010 21:16:50 GMT

here is the picture of my problem !
you know I" can solve this by using composite structure while using 2 slab one of them should be just Core ... and put 2 new slab composite contains finishing part on both side of wall !!! But it's really kinda not good idea !!

Re: Column or wall probelm ?!?!

Anonymous — Tue, 18 May 2010 21:54:35 GMT

Your results are due to differences in the way the composites and complex profiles work.

One way I can think to make it work with the profiles is to use a profiled column that includes the wall finishes. Of course this might create many different profiled columns depending on the conditions of the project.

For the composites to work in section the only way I can think of is to use separate slabs for the floor finishes and use SEOs to clean them up (I think we already discussed this once). This seems like to much work and maintenance to me though.

Re: Column or wall probelm ?!?!

Anonymous — Tue, 18 May 2010 22:18:58 GMT

As you mention complex column ends to many may profile !!!
what I want to know is ... normally in consultant company or Pros person ...
they use separated slabs + SEO ?
RVIT solve this problem !! It connects similar part in plan and section ! but archicad do it just in plan and some how in section !
Does ArchiCAD want to solve this problem ? It adds a lot of feature in archicad 13 or 14 but it seems forgot to correct some basic part !!!

BTW, Would send me the link of your previous discussion as you mention or
tell in what forum and when you discussed ? PLZ

thank you
hamed kassaei
hamedkassaei@gmail.com

Re: Column or wall probelm ?!?!

TMA_80 — Tue, 18 May 2010 22:26:13 GMT

Sadly...Another "must have been fixed" feature ...