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Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime?

Anonymous — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:15:27 GMT

Hi!

What is it in ArchiCad that makes system requirements that not support home editions of XP / Vista?

And second, are Quicktime really a needed thing to have? It's a kind of nightmare software, maybe it not that hard to have if you only use your computer for ArchiCad and other cad related things. But I have my computer for both CAD and Music-production and QT gives me alot of trouble.
Why not have a choice to select if you want too install it or not, and if not, greymarked the function in AC that need QT.

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Rob — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:26:26 GMT

What is it in ArchiCad that makes system requirements that not support home editions of XP / Vista?

just a guess - Teamwork?

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Ralph Wessel — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:53:37 GMT

TurboGlider wrote:
And second, are Quicktime really a needed thing to have? It's a kind of nightmare software, maybe it not that hard to have if you only use your computer for ArchiCad and other cad related things. But I have my computer for both CAD and Music-production and QT gives me alot of trouble.

What problems do you encounter with Quicktime?

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Anonymous — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 05:38:16 GMT

Ralph wrote:
What problems do you encounter with Quicktime?

It overrides some of my other software and some of these overrides I can't turn of without uninstalling Quicktime, I don't know why, could be bugs that don't have with QT to do.
And it always being installed in "msconfig -> autostart" and there I must turn it of after almost every new update.
And there I work before QT overrides our economic system so after everytime we had installed QT we had too reinstall the economic system, I think the problem there was on both the ES and QT.

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Anonymous — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 05:43:03 GMT

Rob wrote:
just a guess - Teamwork?

Maybe? I try to install AC10 at my very tiny old laptop with 512mb and XP Home yesterday, it works, and far more better than I could dream of. Didn't try the teamwork part.

Maybe the sys-req. are recommend systemconfiguration?

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Ralph Wessel — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:02:49 GMT

TurboGlider wrote:
Ralph wrote:
What problems do you encounter with Quicktime?
It overrides some of my other software and some of these overrides I can't turn of without uninstalling Quicktime, I don't know why, could be bugs that don't have with QT to do.

Can you use the Quicktime Preferences (see attached image) to specify when Quicktime should be used? In my experience Quicktime is quite well-behaved. As you say, there may be a problem with a specific application you use, but I don't think Quicktime is to blame.

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Anonymous — Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:06:21 GMT

Which version of Quick Time do you have?

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Anonymous — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:42:05 GMT

I think it is the latest one, I have unmarked all checkbox in QT but it will override in some software even though.
But maybe it isn't QT that is the problem.

And anyone that have experience to run ArchiCad at Home editions?

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Piotr Dobrowolski — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:59:00 GMT

TurboGlider wrote:
Hi!

What is it in ArchiCad that makes system requirements that not support home editions of XP / Vista?.

As for XP home AC works ok - no problems whatsoever teamwork included.

Regarding Vista - forget this c.r.a.p.

Best Regards,
Piotr

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Anonymous — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:06:59 GMT

Piotr wrote:
Regarding Vista - forget this c.r.a.p.

It's hard too find laptop computers today that don't have Vista preinstalled. And ofcause you don't get any drivers on cd that support the hardware so installing Win XP are asking for trouble.

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Piotr Dobrowolski — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:21:12 GMT

TurboGlider wrote:
Piotr wrote:
Regarding Vista - forget this c.r.a.p.
It's hard too find laptop computers today that don't have Vista preinstalled. And ofcause you don't get any drivers on cd that support the hardware so installing Win XP are asking for trouble.

Not that fast... look at for example Dell - they first sold Vista only than they returned to XP - and You can select which OS to be installed.

Again when buying Vista make sure You buy at least Bussiness edition - so that You will be able to downagrade to XP.

Most Laptop vendors have the drivers on their web pages....so only thing lost is the "recovery CD/DVD" which can be home made using some partition imager program (eg. Norton Ghost)

Best Regards,
Piotr

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Anonymous — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:48:23 GMT

Piotr wrote:
Most Laptop vendors have the drivers on their web pages....

Maybe that's true even here in sweden if you don't buy the smallest one. It's worth a check.

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Anonymous — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:30:00 GMT

TurboGlider wrote:
Piotr wrote:
Regarding Vista - forget this c.r.a.p.
It's hard too find laptop computers today that don't have Vista preinstalled.

No it's not. They're called MacBook Pros and can run multiple operating systems.

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Anonymous — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 06:02:55 GMT

Tom wrote:
No it's not. They're called MacBook Pros and can run multiple operating systems.

But ok, it seams that Pro versions of XP / Vista isn't a req. only a recommendation?

But the thing about QT, why not an option where you can choose to install it or not? Even if it's not gives you any problem, I don't like to install more things on my computer that I'm really needed. More things = slower computer and more things that could go wrong.
What I know the only thing in ArchiCad that req. QT-processing is sun-study, fly-through and VR views? But does it really need QT-player for creating this? I'm not that familiar with how QT works.
So, my question are, why do we need QT?

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Anonymous — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:32:11 GMT

The version 7.2 is not compatible with AC 10.
You must install the older version 7.1.6.
Otherwise you must have trouble with animation-set.

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Chadwick — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:36:24 GMT

Better yet - install the latest version of Ubuntu Linux and run Archicad in VMWare.

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

Anonymous — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:44:31 GMT

Chadwick wrote:
Better yet - install the latest version of Ubuntu Linux and run Archicad in VMWare.

Can you explain more?
You mean, AC runs with Quick Time 7.2?

Re: Why not runt at XP Home / Vista home? And why Quicktime

ci-JoshOs — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:09:07 GMT

the reason the system requirements state XP Professional is that that is the version of Windows that ArchiCAD is coded and testesd on. A lot of people are using ArchiCAD fine on XP Home, but GS can't recommend it because they don't test it themselves.
As for Quicktime, it is required by ArchiCAD to function properly, so I think it is entirely reasonable to install it as part of the AC install procedure. So long as you set preferences right it should do exactly what you want it to. What other application is it stealing associations from anyway?