topic Re: Interior Elev Sides Missing. in Modeling

Interior Elev Sides Missing.

Anonymous — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:20:59 GMT

I'm 'playing' with interior elevations again. Is there a bug that causes the side wall boundary lines of IEs to disappear when the boundary walls are complex profiles?

I've tried it in AC11, 12 and 13 and they all display the same error.

Any workarounds, or have I just missed something obvious?

Thanks.

Re: Interior Elev Sides Missing.

Erika Epstein — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:01:21 GMT

On the marker settings you can

Model display> Boundary Contours> Override Contours

This will add in a vertical line. Trims such as baseboards are still problematic, some cut lines show and some don't.

HTH

Re: Interior Elev Sides Missing.

Anonymous — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:29:09 GMT

Thanks for the advice Erika,

Even that doesn't seem to work for me! The edges stubbornly refuse to display.

As a quick test, if I set the walls to a solid cut fill, the edges display correctly. If I now capture the profile of one of the walls, then assign the profile back to the same walls, the edges disappear! Can anyone else reproduce this?

I'm amazed a such a limitation!

Re: Interior Elev Sides Missing.

Barry Kelly — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:21:06 GMT

I can confirm it does not work with interior elevations on version 13.

In the image attached the side wall on the left is a standard composite and the one on the right is a complex profile.

The over-ride boundary contour doesn't do anything either.
As you can see it is on (squiggly line) but not for the complex profile.
I guess the straight line on the left side is the return wall - although I would have hoped this would disappear.

Personally I wouldn't use the interior elevation tool anyway.
And if I did I would extend the limits to include the thickness of the wall.

Barry.

Re: Interior Elev Sides Missing.

Barry Kelly — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:22:13 GMT

Elevation boundaries set to outside of walls.
Barry.

Re: Interior Elev Sides Missing.

Anonymous — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:00:00 GMT

Thanks for confirming that, Barry. I will report it as a bug to my reseller.

Re: Interior Elev Sides Missing.

Anonymous — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:33:19 GMT

HMMMMM.... I have this problem as well. Just noticed it now that we're trying to use "live" interior elevations. I can "work-around" it by just drawing a line there, but the whole purpose of 3D is to not draw lines. I reported it to Graphisoft North America and sent them this post.

Re: Interior Elev Sides Missing.

Anonymous — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 16:47:48 GMT

Peter wrote:
Thanks for confirming that, Barry. I will report it as a bug to my reseller.

I've just got done reporting this as a bug (for the third time now) to Graphisoft North America. I first reported this 2 years ago, then last year, and now again yesterday. Frustratingly, I have to re-explain the problem every time, and have gotten no update for 2 years on what the problem is until now.

Anyhow, here is there response... "I took a look at your issue and it does seem that your request has been forwarded to development for a future release. The reason it isn't being addressed in a hotfix is that the issue isn't a bug but rather a limitation of the current interior elevation tool. If you wish to achieve your desired result, I recommend you use the section tool."

And my response... "I find this frustrating. The interior elevation tool can find the outlines of every type of normal wall. Why doesn't it know the extents or a complex profile wall? Maybe this isn't a bug, but with the way 3D modeling and BIM is developing, you now almost always have exterior walls at the very least, becoming complex profiles. The interior elevation tool should know the outlines of these walls and they should show on the interior elevations. This is basic. If it's a wall, any kind of a wall, the interior elevation tool should pick up the outline.

Using the section tool to develop an interior elevation is in my opinion a horrible workaround. So you do 2 or 3 views with the interior elevation, but then the view that isn't showing the wall outlines, you make a section through, and replace the interior elevation? How do you reference this on the sheet? The interior elevation marker labeling would have to be custom, creating more work and room for errors.

From responses on Architalk, this has been a verified problem since version 11, and I've reported it since version 13, and it has yet to be addressed. I really hope GS makes this small request a priority to fix for the next release. Please share my concern and have GS read the posts on Architalk concerning this issue."

Just venting!!!

Re: Interior Elev Sides Missing.

Anonymous — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 12:03:04 GMT

I have also found that elevation sides disappear when I set "Vertical Range" to "Detect and Fit to Zones". This was particularly hard to diagnose because I was also using complex profiles!