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It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with ArchiCAD

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 10:31:01 GMT

There is beam tool in the ArchiCAD. I wonder if anyone draw the reinforcement bar inside the beam. May be some detail would be good.

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Barry Kelly — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:52:18 GMT

You can if you create a complex profile that includes the reinforcing bars.
But this will only be good for the horizontal reinforcing members.
You can't include any ligatures or other vertial members at various spacings.

I am sure I have seen (a long time ago) an object or add-on somewhere that can do reinforcing.
I can't remember what it was though.

But unless you need to see the reinforcement skeleton in 3D I would think this could be a big waste of time and could potentially slow down your model due to all the polygons.

I would just suggest some simple line work or clever little overlay objects in the sections.

Barry.

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

JaredBanks — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:23:35 GMT

Layer intersection groups and beam/wall priorities could also handle this.

I need to write a dedicated blog post about this, but it's a version of this:

http://www.shoegnome.com/2011/06/26/invisible-beams-aka-rookie-mistake-aka-expert-trick/

Essentially if the rebar is on a layer with the same layer intersection group as the concrete, but a higher priority number, then the rebar will cut out the concrete. You could place each piece of rebar separately or create complex profiles so that each grouping on rebar is one element (vertical: column, horizontal/angled: beams). It'd look great in section.

With this technique, you wouldn't need to manage SEOs and the rebar would be on a dedicated layer. It'd be easy to quantify the rebar, concrete, etc.

But again the point is, why do you need to model the rebar? For sectional purposes, I often make a complex profile of the footings and include the rebar in section as a part of the CP.

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Anonymous — Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:22:28 GMT

Theres an impressive add on (expensive though) from Cadimage that makes easy to do reinforcement bar details in 2d.
See here
http://www.cadimageworld.com/tools/documentation/detailel-ements

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:40:20 GMT

I'm happy to inform you that Reinforcement solution is already available for ArchiCAD.
You can find it on the webpage:
http://www.eptar.hu/cadsupport.php?id=product_block&pID=9&Lang=ENG

If you want to check it, download the DEMO version. DEMO version works as the full one, just has some limitations...

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Achille Pavlidis — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:40:29 GMT

Nice.
Can the reinforcement bars be generated by input from a structural calculation software, or do they have to be drawn in AC?

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Anonymous — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:02:34 GMT

Hi,
This is a tool to design the Reinforcement model and documentation directly in ArchiCAD without any reinforcement modeling tool.

BUt we are open for any good ideas for the near future. To import TEKLA or other structures to our system is just a task, if more of our users need, we can support it in the near future.

Download the UserGuide and the DEMO version to try, how it works:
http://www.eptar.hu/cadsupport.php?id=product_block&pID=9&Lang=ENG
and check the training movies as well:
~~[url]~~http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=[%C3%A9pt%C3%A1r]+reinforcement+archicad&oq=[%C3%A9pt%C3%A1r]+reinforcement+archicad&gs_l=youtube.3...8800.11832.0.12104.8.8.0.0.0.0.121.519.7j1.8.0...0.0...1ac.u9ij6CRlzh8

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Anonymous — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:05:58 GMT

Just to reflect to your last sentence:
"Living for the day, when you can drag a copy in section"

Check out this:
http://simpleaddon.com/Eng/PM_SectionCopy.html

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Anonymous — Sat, 13 Jul 2013 13:20:35 GMT

Try the curtain wall tool, you will get both vertical and horizontal rebar. Once you set it up this works for a variety of "lattice" situations.

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Steve Jepson — Thu, 10 Oct 2013 16:53:01 GMT

I need to model some bent rebar and have it in an interactive schedule that will at least show length.

Are there some .gsm objects for this? If I use a curtain wall, can I get the lengths? For example a piece of #4, 2' vertical, with a bend on it 6" long.

EPTAR is too complicated for me to use on very small projects.

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Anonymous — Thu, 10 Oct 2013 18:34:03 GMT

Yes. I have found few .gsm Objects for this purpose.

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Steve Jepson — Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:09:11 GMT

I tried object e. I can't get the schedule to show the total length of the rebar. Also the object does not display with the hook on the bottom.

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:32:10 GMT

Hi Steve,
I made few changes to the object "e.gsm" (now "e_v2.gsm" - you can see Total lenght of the bar when in Edit mode + in the Schedule). Plus I added the Schedule for e_v2.gsm.

That´s a good starting point to modify the other objects in that folder.

Steve wrote:
Also the object does not display with the hook on the bottom.

. You should use the "c.gsm" for this purpose!

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:33:37 GMT

Editing the object "e_v2.gsm":

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:34:23 GMT

And the GDL code:

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Steve Jepson — Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:38:04 GMT

Thanks. I like it!

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Anonymous — Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:43:27 GMT

Almost forgot the most important part, the modifyed object (for AC14+) and the schedule:

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Anonymous — Mon, 14 Oct 2013 08:36:01 GMT

Nice little set of objects
But if you need a more advanced reinforcement structure, really check out the eptar Reinfrocement DEMO version, it has just been updated with new display options! And it is quite easy to set even for small projects, in my opinion...

http://www.eptar.hu/cadsupport.php?id=product_block&pID=9&Lang=ENG

Re: It is possible to drawing Reinforced Concrete with Archi

Steve Jepson — Sat, 03 Aug 2019 17:14:02 GMT

andro55 wrote:
Almost forgot the most important part, the modified object (for AC14+) and the schedule:

It needs the ROTX, ROTY, ROTZ scripts so it can be placed in more ways. flat for example ( as in corner for continuous footings) or for vertical bars with a bend ( as in a stem wall)

And would it still schedule the entire length including the curve/bend ?

This is no doubt how to do it but I am not getting it to work.
http://www.opengdl.org/Default.aspx?tabid=2304