topic Re: Error message with trim turned on in Modeling

Error message with trim turned on

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 13:07:21 GMT

Has anyone else out there had a problem with the trim causing problems in 10? I have been using the template 10 for US content and everytime I put in a window with trim associated to it, I get the message "group operation error at line 879 in the 3D script of file wa_trim_us_10.gsm...it doesn't matter if it is a casement, double hung, awning, etc, as long as there is trim, I get the message. I have tried doing a new and reset, but I still get the same message. Any suggestions out there??? I sent an email to tech support a while ago, and they are aware that this is a bug. I'd say a pretty BIG bug!!! Any help would be appreciated!

Re: Error message with trim turned on

TomWaltz — Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:19:58 GMT

There seems to be a lot of errors in the AC10 windows. I have not seen that particular error, but have seen several others.

Re: Error message with trim turned on

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:45:12 GMT

That is the only one I have personally seen, but I hope Graphisoft is aware of this and is working on a solution! I think I am going to be using the V9 windows until a fix is provided.

Re: Error message with trim turned on

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:39:54 GMT

I have seen this as well...

Re: Error message with trim turned on

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:38:45 GMT

This is a known bug that is particular to the Mac library. I found that even if I turned off casings I still had problems. I was told to use the Win library and to keep casings turned off also, but it seems to work ok with casings turned on.

I'm not sure the difference between Mac and Windows library parts as I always thought they were the same. Apparently there is some kind of difference.

Don Lee
AC 10
Dual 2.0, 10.4.6

Re: Error message with trim turned on

gkovacsp — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:57:41 GMT

Draftinguru wrote:
Has anyone else out there had a problem with the trim causing problems in 10? I have been using the template 10 for US content and everytime I put in a window with trim associated to it, I get the message "group operation error at line 879 in the 3D script of file wa_trim_us_10.gsm...

Could you post a PLA file with a wall and a problematic window in it? I tried it both on PC and MAC and no errors. It must be something in a particular parameter setting combination and I would like to figure out what is it.

Graphisoft is on it.

Gabor

Re: Error message with trim turned on

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:19:24 GMT

There shouldn't be any parameter settings that are messed up because I just loaded AC on my computer, but I will send a pla later today. Thank you everyone for your posts. I am glad that this is getting good attention from Budapest.

Re: Error message with trim turned on

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:27:24 GMT

There shouldn't be any difference between the Mac and PC libraries. I think it is more of an operating system issue. Do you know what is really bad? I was doing a demo for a group of 30 teachers from the state of Utah and I go and put in 5 or 6 casements. When I go into the 3D window in open GL I start getting these error messages and all I see is an empty opening in my wall. Then when I clicked continue instead of stop, all my walls start disappearing in 3D! It wasn't pretty. I had to do some fancy explaining why this was happening. Anyways, that is my story and I am sticking to it.

Re: Error message with trim turned on

gkovacsp — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:39:25 GMT

Actually, during development there is only a PC library, we create a MAC version from it when development is completed - so there are no differences.

Gabor

Re: Error message with trim turned on

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:57:01 GMT

Here is the PLA.

Re: Error message with trim turned on

gkovacsp — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:29:27 GMT

Can't see it.

Re: Error message with trim turned on

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:51:10 GMT

I had seen this behavior early on and tried to repeat it, but everything seemed to work fine. There isn't any chance you are using RC10 versus the final release?

Re: Error message with trim turned on

David Pacifico — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 14:58:31 GMT

I have seen this error mostly in complex walls. There have been others reporting this:
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=10893
http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=10903

Re: Error message with trim turned on

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:58:04 GMT

I am using the most current copy of Archicad. I had just installed a new-out of the box copy yesterday and I started having these problems right off the bat. Gabor, did you open the file? Did anyone else try opening the file?

Re: Error message with trim turned on

TomWaltz — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:04:46 GMT

Draftinguru wrote:
I am using the most current copy of Archicad. I had just installed a new-out of the box copy yesterday and I started having these problems right off the bat. Gabor, did you open the file? Did anyone else try opening the file?

You did not post a file. Your message did not have any attachments.

Re: Error message with trim turned on

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:34:44 GMT

It won't let me send it, it says the file is too big. I don't know why, the file is only a little over 1 MB.

Re: Error message with trim turned on

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:44:36 GMT

Is anyone else here using, or has used the AC10 template for US users??? I found that when I did a new and reset and pasted in the old model that my doors and windows work. But everytime I go into that template I get the same error. Does anyone know a way to import the layout book/ project map from a different pln info into a new file?

Re: Error message with trim turned on

James Murray — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:11:59 GMT

Draftinguru wrote:
It won't let me send it, it says the file is too big. I don't know why, the file is only a little over 1 MB.

archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/attach_rules.php?f=2

Kinda restrictive for big-filed folks like ourselves but there you go.

Re: Error message with trim turned on

Djordje — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:33:35 GMT

Draftinguru wrote:
Is anyone else here using, or has used the AC10 template for US users??? I found that when I did a new and reset and pasted in the old model that my doors and windows work. But everytime I go into that template I get the same error. Does anyone know a way to import the layout book/ project map from a different pln info into a new file?

Do a "forwad merge":

- make a template of a New and reset file
- merge the template into it

Re: Error message with trim turned on

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:55:15 GMT

Draftinguru wrote:
It won't let me send it, it says the file is too big. I don't know why, the file is only a little over 1 MB.

In the Attribute Manager, purge all unused attributes.
Also, delete everything except for a Wall with the problematic Window in it.
Then save as PLA and ZIP it.
Then hopefully it will be small enough.