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Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:28:36 GMT

Today Graphisoft has announced its upcoming BIMCloud Solution. The following article details its most important features:

http://www.graphisoft.com/info/news/press_releases/graphisoft-BIMcloud-announced-in-tokyo.html

Based on the info in that article, what do you guys think about it? Is this something you are looking forward to using?
Is there any feature in particular in it you guys have been wishing for in the past?

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

Anonymous — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:18:15 GMT

I will be interested to see if realtime means that it is in real time. That would be awesome.

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

Matthew Johnson — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 04:09:04 GMT

Laszlo,

While the BIMcloud announcement is good to see Graphisoft pushing ahead of the competition, I think a vast majority of the current users would like to see a greater commitment to finishing off the development of the existing tools. (Building Materials for all entities, a Mesh tool that generates documentation outcomes, Revision control natively).

The other software has been doing some of these well for some time that it can be an embarrassment to admit that we still have to use manual work-arounds for some of the things we do.

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 05:30:21 GMT

Matthew,
If you don't mind let us keep this topic about BIMCloud. There has been much discussion about what you are saying in other threads and they can be continued in those threds.
I would like this thread to be focused on this new development.

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

Matthew Johnson — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 05:35:31 GMT

OK, But all I've seen so far about BIMcloud is a few press releases full of buzzwords and an emotional video clip showing how to make the logo. I don't want to rant about the other stuff but so far the details of what BIMcloud is going to do for my ArchiCAD use seem very thin on the ground.

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

Anonymous — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 21:19:27 GMT

I agree with Matthew. BIMCloud is of little or no interest to me, but Archicad needs to address some basic functionality issues first.

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

Bricklyne Clarence — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 23:31:38 GMT

I wish I knew more about it to have an opinion.

That press release was about as useful (information-wise) as a weather report in the Arctic circle in December.

All we learned from it was that GS held a closed-door event for a select group of companies and journalists during which they were maybe shown the actual tool and its capabilities? (hard to tell from the screenshots) and that it's going to revolutionize the way we work and collaborate.
Somehow.

And aside from a couple of marketing-style, bullet-points highlighting the major features (in a very generic sense and a vague way), we know nothing of how it does what it's supposed to do, or any of the features at all for that matter.

I suppose we have to wait until the actual release to know more about it ( and to form an opinion) and how it might be of benefit, but until then, I kind of have to echo the sentiment hoping that this isn't the primary, or the signature "New Feature" of the next version of ArchiCAD and all there is to version 18.

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

Rakela Raul — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 01:14:12 GMT

http://www.graphisoft.com/info/news/press_releases/smart_bim_cloud_by_obayashi_nec_graphisoft.html

There is more info here @ link abv

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

Eduardo Rolon — Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:43:52 GMT

Architosh article

http://architosh.com/2014/03/why-one-of-apples-most-notable-developers-is-winning-big-in-japan/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=why-one-of-apples-most-notable-developers-is-winning-big-in-japan

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 13:05:39 GMT

To give some more food for thought here is another article that gives more detailed info:

http://www.upfrontezine.com/2014/upf-812.htm

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

Anonymous — Tue, 01 Apr 2014 22:41:42 GMT

Finally a few more details in the linked articles - it seems our BIM servers can now be hosted on cloud based servers - nice for offices with good internet for that first sync!

Seems a really good logical step.

FWIW I think the next step is GS need to offer a special package for consultants (free) where they can download (and possibly -with caveats-upload) IFC models into the BIM model. Then consultants who use other software can be totally part of the team without the steep price of an archicad seat.

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Apr 2014 18:10:05 GMT

Does this mean we could potentially do away with our localized BIM server? The diagram isn't entirely clear.

That would be a very welcome development for us, the cost of running an additional machine with workstation specs in our backroom has always been a big gripe.

We'd really welcome a cloud system that virtualized the hardware entirely (ala Adesk 365)

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 09 May 2014 09:31:49 GMT

Until the product's actual shipment and comprehensive info/clips are published, here is a collection of links about BIMCloud:

http://architosh.com/2014/04/graphisoft-in-japan-pictures-and-notes-from-the-bimcloud-trip/
http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2014/03/tokyo-press-conferene-by-graphhisoft.html
http://www.aecbytes.com/feature/2014/Graphisoft_BIMcloud.html
http://cadinsider.typepad.com/my_weblog/2014/04/graphisoft-touts-bimcloud-as-easier-cheaper-than-revit-server.html
https://bimblogsa.wordpress.com/2014/03/27/what-is-bimcloud/
http://gfxspeak.com/2014/04/08/graphisoft-unveils-bimcloud/

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

Jan Vlach — Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:57:17 GMT

So yesterday was held Archidays Conference in Jihlava, CZ focused on CZ AC usergroup. Keynote speaker was Akos Pfemeter, VP of Marketing at Graphisoft, talking about new SW coming from GS, AC18 and BIMCloud solution. Later that day, CEO of Cegra, Czech archicad distributor spoked few words about first glimpse to what we may expect in terms of price of this solution. (I do not wish to discuss those details here since I am not sure if they aren't under NDA and it seems that in the end we will have to do without BIMcloud as we are small practice.)

But First thing first. Lets talk for a while what makes BIM Cloud superior to BIM Server:

Well, BIM server hosts AC file on itself and handles all its data. As far as user is concerned, He can create model as big as he wants as long as server is able to handle it (So, if you set about to make fully coordinated BIM model of 60 story building, 6 years old Mac mini is perhaps not the brightest choice of HW to run BIM server on.)

The BIM cloud is far more advanced in that prospect:

You are connecting to BIM manager and then the manager distributes the workload between infinite number of servers. The cool part her is that those servers can be in your office or in Amazon cloud and can be added on-the fly as projects demands it. Which can be really handy and cost efficient. For conception stage, you can work with that old dusty MacMini, saving on server cost and maintenance. Once file goes BIG (See what I did there?) you just add some of your grown-up servers or rent that Amazon/azure/whatever.

Now that is super thing if you are doing really big projects (Think once again something like BIG's 8 building) It does make them possible in 3D, in full construction detali and that is just awesome and I honestly think there is nothing close to it right now on market.

So where is the problem? I do not think it is price, since if it can deliver, it can surely pay for itself on one project.

The problem is far more humble: It is me:) I am a small user. I do not use teamwork. Now don't get me wrong: I want to use it. Unlike most of small 2-X people practices I can clearly see huge advantage in it and I am looking forward to using it. It is fairly easy to setup BIM server on closed office network. Once you want to access it form outside and you do not have VPN or public IP you are in for a bad luck. And since you have to pay for VPN and public IP I figured I would rather pay perhaps bit more, straight to my favorite SW vendor, especially as it would eliminate the need for owning my server. So in that regard, all I need, as a small practice is for Graphisoft to start program allowing its partners (Perhaps Bobrow group or Gegra here in CZ) to offer this kind of service (perhaps special version of BIM server license allowing them to do so)

What do you think of it?

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

rob2218 — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 00:34:25 GMT

this an interesting thread and I think I'm agreeing with the folks who say..."GS has to get it's basic functionality of other software areas right first rather than focusing on the BIMCloud".

Granted I know that the only way to push the envelope is to well....push the envelope and create new and exiting features like the BIMx Hyperdocs for example.....but the basics do need to get worked out a little better.

For example: (just to name a few)
1. Stairs (hubboy)
2. multi-differing story setting or half-stories in same project file.
3. Pensets (hubboy).
4. Cabinet objects (another hubboy).
5. Railings (double hubboy).

just to name a few.

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:49:19 GMT

Rob, please stick to the topic of the thread.
If you have another topic you wish to discuss, start a new thread and maybe link this topic if you want to refer to it.
This way we can keep topics clean and relevant to their titles.

Re: Graphisoft BIMCloud Annnounced

rob2218 — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:06:18 GMT

Fair nuff...I digress........sorry.

laszlonagy wrote:
Rob, please stick to the topic of the thread.
If you have another topic you wish to discuss, start a new thread and maybe link this topic if you want to refer to it.
This way we can keep topics clean and relevant to their titles.