topic Re: Material editing for Curtain wall in Modeling

Material editing for Curtain wall

Anonymous — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:22:01 GMT

With curtain wall tool can we edit different material?
For example:
Wood for profile for construction,
Alluminium for bar

Thank you for your kind help.

Re: Material editing for Curtain wall

Dwight — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:55:28 GMT

See the attached for how to access the separate elements - the boundary, transoms and mullions can each have separate surface materials.

Re: Material editing for Curtain wall

Anonymous — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:52:41 GMT

Thank you for your answer.
But I mean, the different material editing for caps and mullion (or transom).
As example I show the profile I made with construction tool.

Re: Material editing for Curtain wall

Laura Yanoviak — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:03:37 GMT

The "Modular Frame 12" is similar to what you want, but you can only assign it one material. I've modified this part to allow a second material for the cap (see attached). I don't know what version of AC you are on, so the part was created in AC12.

Re: Material editing for Curtain wall

Anonymous — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:29:39 GMT

Hello Laura
This ist AC 13. But same like AC 12.
It is possible to have the different material with "Modular Frame from library object" as you sugested. Modular frame is Library object.
But it is impossible to have the different material with "curtain wall tool".
Curtain wall tool is not ADD-ON and not GSM.
It makes not so much trouble for construction drawing work.
It makes just not so easy to have rendering work if you want to haver different material of cap.
I hope in the future we can have more flexibility for editing material in "curtain wall tool".

Re: Material editing for Curtain wall

Laura Yanoviak — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:39:14 GMT

Markus wrote:
But it is impossible to have the different material with "curtain wall tool".

It worked for me when I gave it a quick test.

Go to the appropriate Frame panel (Boundary/Mulllion/Transom) and select the "Modular Frame" profile (or "Modular Frame 12 _LJY") instead of the "Generic" profile. Materials are designated under "3D Representation" in the Parameters list.

Re: Material editing for Curtain wall

Anonymous — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:24:59 GMT

It is great waht you talk.
I will try it. If I have problem,may I ask you one more time?

Re: Material editing for Curtain wall

Laura Yanoviak — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:32:25 GMT

Markus wrote:
I will try it. If I have problem,may I ask you one more time?

I've attached a screen shot if it helps...

Re: Material editing for Curtain wall

Anonymous — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:59:25 GMT

Perfect!
Now I am considering how I can make own profil to change material...
I mean, in order to load the profile as you made.

Re: Material editing for Curtain wall

Anonymous — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:48:21 GMT

I'm getting a strange sense of deja-vu here! This thread is nearly word for word identical to this thread! Even the modifications to the library part are the same!

Markus, the curtainwall tool is actually made of a series of individual library part components, the overall dimensions of each being controlled by the settings within the curtainwall tool.

The frame object Laura and I both posted can be used for any of the frames in the curtain wall in AC12 & 13 once it is loaded into your library. To do this, place the gsm file into the folder where you keep your custom library parts, then in ArchiCAD open the Library Manager, check this folder is already loaded, and press reload.

Now go to the curtain wall settings. Please refer to the attached image.

1. In the Frames section select 'Boundary'.
2. Select the frame selection button above the parameters, and you will see the object you just loaded listed in the available frames.
3. Select this object.
4. Under the '3D Representation' section of the parameters you will find a new Cap Material option that allows you to choose the cap material separately from the main frame material.
5. Once you are happy with the settings of this frame you can optionally click the 'Unform Frame Classes' button at the top to make the boundary, mullion, and transom frames identical to one you have just set up.

Make any other changes you need to the general settings, then press OK. Draw the curtain wall on plan, and have a look in 3d to see what it looks like!

I hope the process is clearer for you now. Good luck!

Re: Material editing for Curtain wall

Laura Yanoviak — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:15:18 GMT

Peter wrote:
I'm getting a strange sense of deja-vu here! This thread is nearly word for word identical to this thread! Even the modifications to the library part are the same!

Well, it was a pretty easy fix! I wasn't aware of the trouble he was having -- thanks for posting a more detailed explanation.

Re: Material editing for Curtain wall

Anonymous — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:43:12 GMT

Thanks Laura and Peter.
I have solved the problem through your help.
I couldn't imagine, curtain wall tool is the part of library.
Since lcf. file it is not so easy to find out some elements from library.
I have changed the file (I had to change two parameters.) and it works fine.
It has taken several days.
GS had to do this one as standard.
Sorry for this forum that I took twice for the same problem.