topic Re: Window/door molds and opennings in Modeling

Window/door molds and opennings

Anonymous — Thu, 25 May 2023 16:10:28 GMT

I need help in the modeling of windows and doors of a XVII century building in Mozambique Island.

Im attaching some pictures so you can have a better view of the challenge.

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Anonymous — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:50:54 GMT

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Anonymous — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:51:42 GMT

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Djordje — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:06:18 GMT

Basic object making will help for the molding.

Which Archicad are you on? 12 has more reveal options than any one before.

Re: Window/door molds and opennings

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:38:38 GMT

Im on 11.

I started doing the objects based on my 2D survey of the building. So the molds dont have a problem.

The problem is in the openings.

Re: Window/door molds and opennings

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:21:50 GMT

I remember wanting to know how to achieve custom doors and windows and even custom panels. I have yet to make one myself (as far as I remember), but I did compile a short list of references that might guide me to the answer as to how I might go about achieving this for when the time comes. Custom door panels are easy..... but with specially shaped doors...well there's more to it.

Go to the help menu in archicad and do a search on "custom doors".... it roughly explains the process.

Some of these articles (if not all) is dated but might help shed some light on the process:

http://www.aecbytes.com/tipsandtricks/2006/issue4-archicad.html
http://www.graphisoft.com/support/archicad/archiguide/customwindows.html
http://www.caddigest.com/subjects/archicad/select/tutorials/103003_pacifico_window.htm

Re: Window/door molds and opennings

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:50:08 GMT

Thanks for the links but custom doors I already did and it was quite simple.

My problem is still on the openings.

Can I make a object as the negative of the opening and then remove from the wall the piece with Solid Elements?

Re: Window/door molds and opennings

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:07:31 GMT

Ruben wrote:
Thanks for the links but custom doors I already did and it was quite simple.

My problem is still on the openings.

Can I make a object as the negative of the opening and then remove from the wall the piece with Solid Elements?

Yes you can do it that way if you wanted.....but there is something more intuitive to achieve what you want......it involves "wallhole" ....if I'm not mistaken one or more of the links I gave you suggest this technique....

Or you could also do a search in the ArchiCAD help - type in: Saving Custom Shape Doors and Windows from the Project File

Re: Window/door molds and opennings

Ralph Wessel — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:14:29 GMT

Ruben wrote:
I need help in the modeling of windows and doors of a XVII century building in Mozambique Island.
Im attaching some pictures so you can have a better view of the challenge.

The advice in the following post may be applicable in this case too: http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=124425&highlight=#124425

Re: Window/door molds and opennings

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:15:30 GMT

Dwight also suggested a way using SEOs ...
here's the link to that topic: http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=19310&postdays=0&postorder=desc&highlight=custom+window+openings&&start=0

Re: Window/door molds and opennings

Anonymous — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:34:13 GMT

I have used SEO and my only concern is the plan.

The project Im working on can be sacrificed in 3D for the 2D element but I wanted to make it perfect from day one.

I saw the Encina Objective and it looks like a very good addon to AC.

I will follow my instincts and use the best solution.

Thanks all for your help

Re: Window/door molds and opennings

Anonymous — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:04:25 GMT

Ruben,

I see what you're up against. Especially the square window with the splayed jambs that opens up to a segmented arch head. I have to do that stuff a lot on these SoCal Tuscany McMansions (yes, the uber-wealthy are STILL building them... They're a blight; Yes, satan has a firm grip on my mortal soul).

You need to combine several methods. This will be a little bit of work.

First, place the window itself, with correct frame, sash, mullions, etc. Assign a marker and ID to it for specification / scheduling purposes.

Next, use the splayed opening object. Make it to fit over the window. Slide it in place. There's nothing stopping you from placing two opening objects on top of each other. Turn off it's marker and assign an ID that will be ignored in your schedule element.

Finally, make a mesh on the floor plan that creates a 'cut body' to use in an SEO to form the tapered, splayed arch. Save it as a GDL. Hack the GDL code to rotate it to the proper orientation, then slide it in place. Do the SEO, then put the 'cut body' object on a layer that stays turned off (mine is called "U-SHAP"... That means 'Utility' and Shape')

The splayed opening object will make your opening display properly on the floor plan. The 'cut body' mesh with the SEO makes everything look proper in elevation, section and 3D.

If you have to edit this assemblage, then it will be a bit of a pain, but it will be RIGHT. I've been paid more to DRAW a window than it cost to BUY the window at least once, I'm sure!

Other tips: Tell the mesh you want all it's ridges smooth. When you write it to a GDL, add MUL codes to the 3D Script so you can re-size it if necessary... if it only needs a few cm change, it'll still look fine. In the 2D script, just use the PROJECT2 3,270,2 command. You'll have the object's layer turned off normally, so it's okay if it's ugly in 2D. Finally, be sure and make it's material controllable so you can match the window jamb's material; it may seem ridiculous, but trust me... just do it. You'll be happy later.

Save the object someplace outside the project, with your other custom objects. You'll use it again.

Hope that helps.

Give me cute or give me death!.... I live in Orange County.

Re: Window/door molds and opennings

Djordje — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:53:58 GMT

Dave wrote:
Give me cute or give me death!.... I live in Orange County.

Do you drive a Coddington or a Foose? Maybe a chopper? How about WCC?

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