topic Vectorial Shadows in 3D Document in Modeling

Vectorial Shadows in 3D Document

Arcadia — Fri, 26 May 2023 12:42:45 GMT

I can't find any settings to change the source of the shadows in the 3D document settings. Apparently shadows for 3D documents are seperate from the 3D window and changing the sun source in the 3D window doesn't seem to change the 3D doc at all. Anyone know how I can do this?

Re: Vectorial Shadows in 3D Document

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:02:01 GMT

I believe you have to redefine the 3D Document based on the current settings of the 3D Viewpoint.
Think of the 3D Document as a View, meaning it has stored 3D settings that are retained no matter what you do in the 3D Viewpoint until you redefine it.

Re: Vectorial Shadows in 3D Document

Arcadia — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:19:05 GMT

Thanks thats got it sorted!

Re: Vectorial Shadows in 3D Document

David Shorter — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:04:38 GMT

thats fine but you can't transfer the settings in the 3D document window to the 3D window so having created a 3D document you can never reproduce the settings in the 3D window.
Make redefining VERY difficult...

Re: Vectorial Shadows in 3D Document

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:59:45 GMT

David, if you right click the 3D Document in the Project Map and choose Open Source View, isn't it what you are asking for?

Re: Vectorial Shadows in 3D Document

David Shorter — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:14:00 GMT

Yes Laszlo, that is what I mean but it doesn't remember the sun settings which makes it unusable for a Sun Study ... its not consistent.

Re: Vectorial Shadows in 3D Document

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:52:18 GMT

David, I think the Sun Settings are stored and restored correctly, however, there seems to be a trick.
In the Model Display panel of the 3D Document Settings Dialog, you have to set the Vectorial Sun Shadow field to something other than OFF. Otherwise it is giving you the phenomenon you described.

Re: Vectorial Shadows in 3D Document

David Shorter — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:26:10 GMT

Not sure I like "tricks" but I'll test it out.... I'll be back!!!

Re: Vectorial Shadows in 3D Document

David Shorter — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:31:22 GMT

Sorry Laszlo, trick doesn't work. Go to any 3D doc, open the source view and you will see, hopefully, what you expect to see in the 3D window as far as the shadows are concerned. Now open the 3D projection settings/more sun the date there will will always show the last saved settings NOT the ones currently displayed. A rebuild will have no effect so the 3D window and this will not match the More Sun settings.
On Mactel of course ......
I can send you some incredibly boring screenshots if you like

Re: Vectorial Shadows in 3D Document

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:26:52 GMT

OK, I see what you mean. I will report this to GS.

Re: Vectorial Shadows in 3D Document

David Shorter — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:38:30 GMT

I have reported the problem but it helps to have another voice

Re: Vectorial Shadows in 3D Document

Arcadia — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:49:19 GMT

I think after reading all the above posts I won't bother with vectorial shadows in 3D documents. It should be much easier.

Re: Vectorial Shadows in 3D Document

Link — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:04:34 GMT

David wrote:
Now open the 3D projection settings/more sun the date there will will always show the last saved settings NOT the ones currently displayed.

And saved views don't do that either, not even when they are redefined.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: Vectorial Shadows in 3D Document

Wokka — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:26:28 GMT

So shadow diagrams are STILL the same as version 6?!. Cut and paste from the 3D window. For 'development applications' here, just about every project must have shadow diagrams. It's part of our standard documentation but it's always a time consuming process that's prone to human error, espescially if there are changes to the model. Surely Graphisoft can come up with an automatic version, that stamps the time, date, sunangle etc or do we wait for the new 'SUN AND SHADE BUILDER' from Cadimage.. I think I need to do a wish or pole.....