topic Re: Honeycomb Wall in Modeling

Honeycomb Wall

Anonymous — Tue, 09 May 2023 14:41:57 GMT

I need to build a "honeycomb" wall, but have no idea how to build it in ArchiCad. The attach render has been made in Revit.

Re: Honeycomb Wall

Dwight — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 16:26:27 GMT

The solution: Complex Profile!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Draw a complex profile fill corresponding exactly to the elevational view you desire.

Create a complex profile wall and draw it PERPENDICULAR to the facade direction.

Viola.

Re: Honeycomb Wall

JaredBanks — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 17:57:33 GMT

Or draw the wall normally. Make a complex profile corresponding to the hole pattern (this could be initially drawn with fills on the elevation and then copied into the complex profile manager). Use that as the operator in a SEO to cut the holes out. This way the original wall has it's reference line along it's length and can receive doors, windows, etc. like any other wall.

OR...

if there's an empty window in ArchiCAD that is the right shape (which would be very easy to make without any GDL knowledge; there's a great tutorial somewhere on the forum that I've used), you could add lots of empty windows to a regular wall. Then they'd show up nicely in plan. Though that might be insanely cumbersome in this case with so many holes.

Lots of options.

Re: Honeycomb Wall

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:35:54 GMT

JaredBanks wrote:
Use that as the operator in a SEO to cut the holes out.

Or make the operator(s) beams and the holes are automatic.

Re: Honeycomb Wall

Dwight — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:40:40 GMT

Complex profile as SEO cutter is better than making the wall as a complex profile AND allows arrangement using the elevation as a cue. This simplifies editing.

Placing windows, beams or whatever individually has the drawback of only being placed in plan view and then pulled into place. This seems like more work and more cumbersome editing.

Re: Honeycomb Wall

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:45:02 GMT

Dwight wrote:
Complex profile as SEO cutter is better than making the wall as a complex profile AND allows arrangement using the elevation as a cue. This simplifies editing.

Placing windows, beams or whatever individually has the drawback of only being placed in plan view and then pulled into place. This seems like more work and more cumbersome editing.

I just meant that using a CP beam cuts the wall automatically eliminating the need for the SEO.

Re: Honeycomb Wall

Dwight — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:47:21 GMT

No criticism intended.

The complex profile allows for 'ganging' operations of the kind we're discussing and it is important to emphasize the ease of editing combined with the elevation layout aspect for productivity.

NOW: If only we could Trace reference views in the Complex Profile window. THAT would increase productivity!

Re: Honeycomb Wall

JaredBanks — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:18:01 GMT

Dwight wrote:
NOW: If only we could Trace reference views in the Complex Profile window. THAT would increase productivity!

That would be awesome.

I like the idea of using the beam to cut the holes. Though it should be noted that you need to make sure the intersection groups and layers work correctly.

Re: Honeycomb Wall

Anonymous — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 18:04:47 GMT

Something like this?
I use only columns and walls with some SEO's on the ends.

Re: Honeycomb Wall

Anonymous — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:46:48 GMT

Just to be clear...

These openings are made with three beams automatically punching through the one wall. The nearest beam is shown in wireframe. Of course the same effect could be accomplished with a single profiled beam or arrays of simple ones. I have used squares for speed and simplicity. The shapes could be just about anything.

Of course after all this about beams and auto-intersection, there may be performance advantages to the SEOs. I haven't tested this.

Re: Honeycomb Wall

Anonymous — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:55:45 GMT

Would you tell me how you got the beam to do that, Matthew?

Re: Honeycomb Wall

Anonymous — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 22:01:41 GMT

zeropointreference wrote:
Would you tell me how you got the beam to do that, Matthew?

The beam needs to have a higher intersection priority than the wall and the layers have to have the same intersection number. A curious feature of this (for which I have yet to find a use) is that the holes can appear or not depending on the layers settings.

Re: Honeycomb Wall

Anonymous — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 23:32:46 GMT

Sorry, I meant make the beam turn into a 10x10 grid of small blocks.

Re: Honeycomb Wall

Anonymous — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 13:45:24 GMT

zeropointreference wrote:
Sorry, I meant make the beam turn into a 10x10 grid of small blocks.

You just draw whatever shape(s) you want with fills in the profile editor.

Re: Honeycomb Wall

Anonymous — Sun, 09 Jan 2011 14:53:49 GMT

I'm not sure why it's never occurred to me that one can make unconnected pieces in the profile editor like that but it still be one object. Having a bit of an epiphany morning here.

Thanks.