topic Re: Dimensions places in Core Only view in Modeling

Dimensions places in Core Only view

Steve Jepson — Wed, 24 May 2023 10:46:30 GMT

I want to add some dimensions to an elevation. The dimensions need to be to the core of the walls. In core only view of the elevations I can add the dimensions I want. However, when I switch the view back to display the finish materials the dimensions I just added will not display. Is there a way to display dimensions added in Core only view in other views too? I tried layers and copy/paste. No luck.

Re: Dimensions places in Core Only view

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 00:41:27 GMT

Steve,
I came across this problem on a previous project. I had a separate structural display setting for my concrete outline drawings and could not get my overall dimensions (such as grid dimensions) to appear on my concrete outline drawings and floor plan drawings. I had to dimension twice.

For this reason I have worked around using multiple structural display settings in current projects. I also found trace reference between plans with different structural display to be slow.

However, this was in ArchiCAD 12, there may have been major improvements since.

Re: Dimensions places in Core Only view

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 00:46:44 GMT

Steve wrote:
I want to add some dimensions to an elevation. The dimensions need to be to the core of the walls. In core only view of the elevations I can add the dimensions I want. However, when I switch the view back to display the finish materials the dimensions I just added will not display. Is there a way to display dimensions added in Core only view in other views too? I tried layers and copy/paste. No luck.

Unfortunately, no. Has always been this way "by design". Dimensions made in a 'partial structure display' mode are associated ONLY with that mode, regardless of layer. There have been various discussions here and in other forums about exactly what you've run into, Steve. It's frustrating to have to re-dimension.

Re: Dimensions places in Core Only view

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 01:26:35 GMT

Steve

A workaround could be to place hotspots while in Core Only mode, switch pack to normal view and dimension to the hotspots. I know that's not going to update automatically, but gets you part way there.

Re: Dimensions places in Core Only view

Steve Jepson — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 01:31:12 GMT

Yes. That's what I have been doing. View core only, place hot spots

Also I like Tom's idea of using a trace reference with elevation. I had not thought of that.

Re: Dimensions places in Core Only view

Steve Jepson — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 01:48:29 GMT

Thanks Tom.

The trace reference thing works great. I saved a elevation view showing core only, then placed the dimension in the view entire model view.

I checked to see if the dimensions attached to the model correctly and they did. When I turn off the trace reference and move something, the dimension will change too. Works for me.

Re: Dimensions places in Core Only view

Aaron Bourgoin — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 02:53:36 GMT

In the days before fracking came to be known as something equally bad, this 'feature' caused me to say 'frack' a lot. now i say 'frick'. no, wait, that's a great museum . . . . : - D

Re: Dimensions places in Core Only view

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 02:57:15 GMT

No Worries Steve,
I didn't realise the dimension would be associated with the trace reference. That's good.

Re: Dimensions places in Core Only view

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 03:25:35 GMT

Steve wrote:
Thanks Tom.

The trace reference thing works great. I saved a elevation view showing core only, then placed the dimension in the view entire model view.

I checked to see if the dimensions attached to the model correctly and they did. When I turn off the trace reference and move something, the dimension will change too. Works for me.

That's a bonus!

Re: Dimensions places in Core Only view

Steve Jepson — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 04:31:12 GMT

The dims are being attached to the things in the active view rather than the reference view, even when I put the reference view on top. It makes sense. Theoretically you could place the dims in the active elevation view with out the trace reference but it is too hard to hit/find the right node. Especially when you are working with lots of skins and perhaps corner boards or trim on top of that. All the trace reference does is help you hit the node your after the first time. Why it done not attach to the reference I am not sure. Perhaps there is some sort of priority? I suppose if you Tab, you could attach to the reference? I didn't try it.
Another thing that helps is to check the box in the Dimension Settings for Dimension only the Core of Walls and Slabs.