topic Re: ac17 zone identifier 2 17 & NO custom settings??!! in Modeling

ac17 zone identifier 2 17 & NO custom settings??!!

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 00:18:35 GMT

hi,

the videos & help file talk about ac17 zone identifier 2 17 custom settings as a new feature but it is grayed out?
any thoughts on that

thanks,
joseph

Re: ac17 zone identifier 2 17 & NO custom settings??!!

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 04:57:12 GMT

I too am puzzled by the extent of the description of this upgraded condition that is not available. Could it be that it is a bug??

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Rick Taron — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:17:38 GMT

My zone settings is grayed out as well.
and instead of Settings, the tab is called "Custom Settings"
not like in the new 17 video on the youtube channel.

anyone know how to fix this?

Re: ac17 zone identifier 2 17 & NO custom settings??!!

NCornia — Fri, 21 Jun 2013 21:58:45 GMT

Gentleman,

You need to use the "Zone Stamp 1 17" and "Zone Stamp 2 17" objects. These are available in the International library
and at http://www.bimcomponents.com. I will have to check why these were not included with the default USA library,
but for now you can download them here:
Zone_Stamp_1 17
Zone_Stamp_2 17

Sorry about the confusion.

Best regards,

Re: ac17 zone identifier 2 17 & NO custom settings??!!

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:01:22 GMT

hi,

how can i down load only the zone stamp instead of the entire library?

thanks,
joseph

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Rick Taron — Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:20:05 GMT

Joseph wrote:
hi,

how can i down load only the zone stamp instead of the entire library?

thanks,
joseph

Ditto....
The drag to Archicad17 feature doesn't ever finish the download.
something looks like it is broken.

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NCornia — Tue, 25 Jun 2013 17:03:25 GMT

Rick wrote:
Joseph wrote:
hi,

how can i down load only the zone stamp instead of the entire library?

thanks,
joseph
Ditto....
The drag to Archicad17 feature doesn't ever finish the download.
something looks like it is broken.

If the drag to ArchiCAD function is not working you should make sure the GDL Web Control/Plug-in is up to date. If that does not correct the issue then you may need to try another web browser or check to see if another application, such as anti-virus, might be impeding the process.

In the meantime I am happy to send the objects to users in North America. Just send an email to our North American Technical Support team and we can send you a file transfer.

Best regards,

Re: ac17 zone identifier 2 17 & NO custom settings??!!

Rick Taron — Tue, 25 Jun 2013 19:02:44 GMT

Nope, still hangs at 99% and then finishes with an error message.
I'll send you an email.

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Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 10:00:54 GMT

I am wondering if this has anything to do to the fact that you cannot technically "place" a Zone Stamp in ArchiCAD.
You can only place Zones that will display a Zone Stamp when placed.

I tried this and I could not drag it to ArchiCAD, it didn't work for me either. However, I could drag any normal object.

Anyway, I have forwarded this issue to GS.

Re: ac17 zone identifier 2 17 & NO custom settings??!!

Rick Taron — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:31:56 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
However, I could drag any normal object.

This is the first time I have tried to use the portal from a browser. I can't get any object to drag and drop.
I am using Chrome or IE and both act the same except in Chrome I can rotate the object view.
In either browser, I don't see the menu on the left side like in the video.

I have turned off the add blocker but still no go.

Why can't we simply have the option to download the object to hard drive?

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NCornia — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 02:01:54 GMT

For myself the drag and drop does work for the Zone Stamps. On OSX 10.8.4 I was able to drag Zone stamps into ArchiCAD 17 from Safari 6.0.3, Firefox 22.0 and Google Chrome successfully. I am not certain about Windows right now, I will need to test.

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vfrontiers — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:25:41 GMT

Fricka Frack...

I just ported a 16 project to 17... ALL MY ZONES now read GROSS AREA and not the zone name previously input. All the names are there in the dialog box, but the stamp will ONLY display GROSS AREA as the zone name...

This is NOT the CATEGORY and switching the USE CATEGORY as NAME has no effect....

Someone tell me how I can get my Room Names back!..

I presume this is NOT because Zone Identifier 2 is not available, because is shows up fine (not a DOT) and appears in the menu list for the zone setup...

Help!

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vfrontiers — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:32:56 GMT

Screen shot

Re: ac17 zone identifier 2 17 & NO custom settings??!!

Anonymous — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:41:45 GMT

It looks like the script for the AC17 version is bollocks. Perhaps you can open the original file in 16, open the zone stamp and save as "Zone Stamp VF" or something and embed it. This should change the GUID and prevent the substitution when you open in 17.

Re: ac17 zone identifier 2 17 & NO custom settings??!!

vfrontiers — Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:47:01 GMT

Along the same train of thought, I just replaced that stamp with the NCS version... and all the names displayed correctly and I could make the stamp look like it did before... My euphoria was short lived though... as this process was quickly followed by a CRASH....

Re: ac17 zone identifier 2 17 & NO custom settings??!!

Anonymous — Fri, 28 Jun 2013 02:24:33 GMT

I've got a new v17 file in which the zone tool doesn't appear to work at all. I select the tool, it says "click into an Area...etc" down in the lower left, but when I click, nothing happens at all. The walls area set as zone boundaries.

A few times I clicked, it gave me dialog box saying that no area could be found but it could try if I said yes, it would create a zone comprised of he inner area of a few nearby walls - not enclosed by the walls, but the walls themselves.

EDIT - I just tried creating quick wall rectangles and the zone tool seems to work fine - something must be messed up with the walls of my plan, but I can;t think what it could be.

Anyone have a similiar trouble or ideas to fix it?

thanks!

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Barry Kelly — Fri, 28 Jun 2013 02:59:47 GMT

Chris wrote:
EDIT - I just tried creating quick wall rectangles and the zone tool seems to work fine - something must be messed up with the walls of my plan, but I can;t think what it could be.

Turn on your wall reference lines (on screen display option) and see how they all trim.
They will all need to connect to each other to create an enclosed space for the zone to place automatically.

Worse case scenario if you can't get the wall to trim together properly then set the zone to manual draw (in 17 you can now do a rectangle) and draw the zone yourself.

Barry

Re: ac17 zone identifier 2 17 & NO custom settings??!!

Anonymous — Fri, 28 Jun 2013 03:11:41 GMT

Barry wrote:
Chris wrote:
EDIT - I just tried creating quick wall rectangles and the zone tool seems to work fine - something must be messed up with the walls of my plan, but I can;t think what it could be.
Turn on your wall reference lines (on screen display option) and see how they all trim.
They will all need to connect to each other to create an enclosed space for the zone to place automatically.

Worse case scenario if you can't get the wall to trim together properly then set the zone to manual draw (in 17 you can now do a rectangle) and draw the zone yourself.

Barry

reference lines all appear to line up properly - doesn't make any sense!

hate to do it manually, though, maybe there's something simple I'm missing

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Barry Kelly — Fri, 28 Jun 2013 03:20:34 GMT

Chris wrote:
reference lines all appear to line up properly - doesn't make any sense!

It could be the smallest of gaps.
The only way to know for sure is to force all the walls to trim with each other again.

Often I will drag a copy of the walls to the side so I can play with them and then it doesn't matter if I destroy them.
If you drag a copy and can place a zone in them then I wonder if there are other walls (other layers or duplicates) that are interfering.
Barry.

Re: ac17 zone identifier 2 17 & NO custom settings??!!

Anonymous — Fri, 28 Jun 2013 03:34:16 GMT

Barry wrote:
Chris wrote:
reference lines all appear to line up properly - doesn't make any sense!
It could be the smallest of gaps.
The only way to know for sure is to force all the walls to trim with each other again.

Often I will drag a copy of the walls to the side so I can play with them and then it doesn't matter if I destroy them.
If you drag a copy and can place a zone in them then I wonder if there are other walls (other layers or duplicates) that are interfering.
Barry.

Checked all the connections by trimming, then copied the walls enclosing one room to the side and checked the intersections again - no luck. Then i drew a quick room again and sure enough the zone works there - even though one of the reference lines didn't properly intersect! This is so weird - thanks for the continuing thoughts and help!